Talk:Severus II

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@Ichthyovenator: so, bringing the issue here, I don't think "Valerius Severus" is very good because the omission of only his first name seems arbitrary. A google scholar search for "Valerius Severus" shows no instance of this emperor being called that specifically over the full "Flavius Valerius Severus", and the search returns other people called "Valerius Severus" as well. He seems to be commonly known as Severus simply, and although the numeral II appears to be used by numismatists mostly (for example), it makes sense for an emperor and it's what the DIR and Kienast's Romische Kaisertabelle call him. The other alternative is moving the page to the subject's full name, but I lean toward Severus II. Avilich (talk) 15:57, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

I completely agree. At this point in time, "Flavius" had not yet become the almost title-like honorific name it was to become so not using it while using the rest is arbitrary. His coinage, as it either abbreviates or omits Flavius and Valerius, suggests that he was also often known by his contemporaries as just "Severus". Given that titling the page just 'Severus' or 'Severus (emperor)' doesn't work since it is not precise enough, Severus II is most appropriate given that its a name used by both numismatists and historians (at least to some degree; and in both cases seemingly to a greater degree than "Valerius Severus"). Ichthyovenator (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
We agree then, fantastic. But it seems "Severus II" was merged here and so I apparently can't do a quick move. Do you have the means, or will this need to be taken to the technical requests section? Avilich (talk) 16:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I can't do a quick move either. Bringing this up as a technical request should be fine given that I don't see why anyone would oppose it and since you and I tend to be the only people arguing about this kind of stuff. Ichthyovenator (talk) 16:54, 22 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
I went ahead and made a technical request. Ichthyovenator (talk) 13:07, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Avilich: while we're on the topic of renaming articles on emperors, perhaps you'd be interested in this discussion on Constantine III / Heraclius Constantine. Ichthyovenator (talk) 14:29, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply