Talk:Saints in Anglicanism

Delete?

Umm, these people are not officially classified as saints by the Anglican Church. The only post-Reformation canonization was King Charles I of England. Delete?Homagetocatalonia 03:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

• See related discussion at Talk:Calendar of saints (Church of England)#Proposed rename of article to in accordance with the 1958 Lambeth Conference resolution--Golden Wattle ^talk 03:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

All the saints listed in Anglican prayerbooks from 0-1660 A.D. are still considered 'saints by the Anglican Communion. A saint is a person who is a heavenly example of what a true follower of Christ shoulb be like. Please everyone, read up more on your Church's history and doctrines before you write anything.--Lord Balin 04:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this is a very important article. More work needs to be done it.

SECisek 22:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused on this point. The articles claims that Charles I has been canonized by the Anglican church; but the wikipedia page on Charles I only mentioned that he is regarded as a martyr. I glanced through the source used by this article; it doesn't appear to mention that Charles I is a cannonized Saint. Is there corroboration somewhere? Parables 20:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Please excuse me for making the changes without explaining myself. I actually did write a blurb down here about why I made the edit I did, and I'm not sure why it's now missing...

If you check through the List of Anglican Church Calendars, you will find that many of them list Charles I as a martyr (not as a saint) and many do not include him at all. The article Calendar of saints (Church of England) specifies: "The only person canonised in any sense by the Church of England since the English Reformation is St Charles the Martyr (King Charles I), although he is not widely recognised by Anglicans as a saint outside the Society of King Charles the Martyr." It would seem that the view that Charles is a saint is a minority opninion. Either way, in order to keep a neutral POV, this article must at least mention that the canonization is not universally recognized in the Anglican Communion. Therefore I am going to reinstate my insertion. Parables (talk) 04:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Catholic vs. catholic

Should the first sentence be Catholic, meaning the Roman Catholic Church, or catholic (small 'c'), referring to the entire Christian faith? Just curious. As Anglicans are not in communion with the Roman Catholic Church, it might be odd to have Catholic in there. However, as Anglicans and Catholics are just about the only ones that celebrate specific saints, it might be intentional. --Sasouthcott (talk) 10:53, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Anglicans consider themselves "Catholic" in structure, or "reformed catholic", meaning they are not protestant. Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 17:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was No support for merger: closed on 10 Sept 2009

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The article Saints in Protestantism contains no particular information which is not also relevant, and at least potentially, includable in this article. On that basis, I propose that that article be merged into this one. John Carter (talk) 17:15, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• Support. Only issue: Anglicanism is a subset of Protestantism, not the other way around. The smaller article should therefore be merged into it as a separate section at the bottom of the article, w/o fudging it into the body. Seb az86556 (talk) 07:37, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
• Comment. The name of the article will have to be changed, then. Saints in Protestantism would encompass both. Jafeluv (talk) 08:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose. Fist of all, many Anglicans (especially High church and/or Anglo-Catholics) do not consider themselves to be strictly Protestant (see via media). Even if we do decide to group Anglicans with Protestantism, the article Saints in Protestantism could be expanded to to include brief descriptions of "saints" in Anglicanism, Methodism, Lutheranism, and other Protestant traditions (i.e. priesthood of all believers) with links to other articles that go into more detail. youngamerican (wtf?) 12:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose . The treatment of saints in the Anglican Communion is often quite distinct from the rest of Protestantism. E.g. the commemoration of All Saints' Day, prayers to saints as practiced by some Anglo-Catholics, recognition (by the American church, at least) of many individuals who are not formally canonized by the Roman Catholic Church. The article is admittedly a bit generic, but could be expanded to cover more thoroughly aspects of the topic that are unique to Anglicanism. 140.247.103.90 (talk) 01:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

(This was closed on 10 September 2009 by User:NickPenguin; no support for merger. Moonraker12 (talk) 11:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC))

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Modern saints

Is there a formal list anywhere of people recognized as "saints" or "heroes of the faith"? I've come here from the Edith Cavell page; she's listed in the Category:Anglican saints but not here, and by the look of it she's not the only one.
How do we cross-check/verify? Moonraker12 (talk) 11:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

POV & Heroes

I see many saints have been linked to here as a "Hero of the Anglican Church" or whatever. Is this formula in fact at all common? When was it first introduced? In the 1958 Lambeth resolution? This should be added, and the whole term referenced, which it is not currently. Some of the language of this article is rather tendentious POV. Johnbod (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Constance Markiewicz?

I've deleted "Constance Markiewicz, Social Reformer" from the list of Modern Anglican Saints. Her page describes her principally as a politician and a revolutionary; it doesn't even say she was an Anglican, let alone a modern anglican saint. Come on!! Moonraker12 (talk) 12:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
PS this section needs some serious checking. What is the source for these "saints"? Moonraker12 (talk) 12:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Examples of Modern Saints section cleanup

There are no citations and it appears to just be a list of notable people who meet the criteria outlined for saints at the conference mentioned. I didn't want to delete anything that there may be important but from reading the other sources it seems that a great number of notable and non-notable people meet the criteria and the list is just fluff.--Savonneux (talk) 08:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Saints in the Anglican Use

Since Roman Catholics only venerate saints canonized by the Roman Catholic Church, and Anglicans venerate the Saints within their calenders, what do Christians of the Anglican Use do? Since the Anglican Use are Christians who were in the Anglican Communion but left and joined the Latin Rite (Catholic Church), do they only venerate Catholic saints, or do they keep Anglican saints as well? Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 17:14, 27 July 2010 (UTC)