Talk:Ryan Lavery

Latest comment: 14 years ago by Willcrys 84 in topic Tragic Hero OR?
Former good article nomineeRyan Lavery was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 22, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed

GA failed

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GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS):  
    Assertations such as "one of the most memorable debuts" are not backed up at all, and a few peacock terms have snuck in. Plot summary is very bloated and focuses more on the entire storyline than on the individual character.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
    Only some of the sources really seems to be about the actual character himself. Also, 8 references is very thin, especially when 4 are just citations to an individual episode. Furthermore, claims such as "His well-intentioned judgment calls often landing him in more trouble than good, he is characteristic of the tragic hero, often seemingly unaware of this flaw" smack of original research very highly.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
    It gives a fairly thourough coverage of the character (maybe a bit too thorough), but some parts seem to drift off into more of a plot summary of the whole series. While I understand that soap opera stories can twist and turn like so many mountain paths, I still think that this could be focused a bit better.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
    Does have many problems with peacock words in the intro, but not quite enough to fail it for NPOV.
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  
    This article has a long way to go yet before it can reach GA status. I would work on finding more sources that pertain to the character himself, if that's possible.

Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 15:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)Reply


I pretty much agree that it fails. Amanda who? Played by whom? Patrij (talk) 15:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Tragic Hero OR?

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"His well-intentioned judgment calls often land him in more trouble than good, he is characteristic of the tragic hero, often seemingly unaware of this flaw." As someone who took part in the GA discussion noted, this claim reeks of original research. What's more, the only outside articles in which I've seen this claim seen to have lifted it from this page. Willcrys 84 (talk) 02:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply