Talk:Roc

Maybe countries are more important than TV shows

Can someone please tell me why doesn't ROC redirect to Republic of China? --Fixman_{(Praise me)No animals were harmed with this edit, but they will be if you undo it} —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC).

Please read WP:DAB#Primary topic. It is not enough to be the "most important" meaning. The topic has to be the primary meaning over all the other meanings. The clear majority of users who enter "roc" or "ROC" in the search box and hit Go would need to be looking for the Republic of China. I seriously doubt that is the case, and Google seems to support me; only nine of the first 100 Google hits for "roc" are about Republic of China. Prolog (talk) 13:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I however think that, while its very possible that someone typing "roc" not be referring to the republic of china (and roc should be a disambiguation page), ROC very probably refers to Republic of China, and should be a redirect to the latter, with it having a heading with a link to roc (the disambiguation page) --Fixman^{Praise me} 06:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Then why do you keep blanking this dab page instead of using the project's process for requesting controversial moves? Blanking a dab page to hijack the title into one's preferred redirect is unacceptable and confusing to the readers. That is no different than blanking an article and creating your own in its place. It seems you have done this on other pages too. The status quo here was that ROC was a dab page until User:Ewlyahoocom moved it, providing no edit summary to justify his/her actions. My move was merely a revert. As the editor wishing to change the current situation, the burden of proof is on you. Prolog (talk) 18:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Little Correction @Prolog when we search on Google ROC, Republic of China Article page is the third in Google (français) Sorry (if it disturbs you). Dadapotato (talk) 17:17, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was protect. DrKiernan (talk) 14:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Roc → Roc (disambiguation) — A few users insist on redirecting Roc to Republic of China so much that they actually keep blanking this dab page, so I guess I have no choice but to "request" a move myself. In case it's not clear... — Prolog (talk) 18:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Survey

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• ...I oppose this move per my comments above. No evidence has been provided to support Republic of China as the primary meaning for "roc" (or "ROC"), and Google search seems like evidence against it. There is a large amount of other meanings of which some are very notable, such as Roc (mythology) and ROC curves. Prolog (talk) 18:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose vandalprotect the page instead. 70.51.10.188 (talk) 03:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. Roc should remain a DAB, with ROC and R.O.C. both redirecting to it. Andrewa (talk) 05:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose: ROC already redirects to Republic of China, and perhaps this meaning is indeed that primary topic for the capitalised form and needs to be given prominence at the top of the Roc disambiguation page, but Republic of China is certainly not the primary topic for Roc. PamD (talk) 17:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

On second thoughts, after Googling around, I'm much less sure that ROC redirecting to Republic of China is justified - far too many other uses, in capitals. PamD (talk) 17:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

That was my conclusion, too. Andrewa (talk) 13:52, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Page protection can be requested from WP:RFP... in this case, full protection is needed, and vandal inquiries should be made. 70.51.10.188 (talk) 03:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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R.O.C (Rassemblement des Opposants à la Chasse)

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