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Republican Turkish Party is not a party that operates in Turkey. It is, as you have written in the entry, operating in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyrpus, which is a de-facto state. So it is a mistake to write: Republican Turkish Party (Turkey), it should be Republican Turkish Party (TRNC).--Citizeny 7 July 2005 23:11 (UTC)

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Latest comment: 16 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion

This should be a redirect to the current Republican Party in the US in my opinion, with the rest being on a disambiguation page. The same thing with the Democratic Party. I'll check back in a few days to see if anyone disagrees.
--Just H 17:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Why? Are there no other active/prominent parties elsewhere referred to simply as "Republican Party"?
--Interiot 07:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Disagree, of course. There are many political parties all over the world which call themselves "republican". Everybody searching for the ones in the u.s. can find them on the existing page.
80.144.216.103 01:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
_ _ Interiot has asked, and 80. has answered, the wrong question. The right question is whether there is a primary use among users of English-language Wikipedia of the term "Republican Party", so we need to know if there are a fair number of other locally significant RPs -- Even if the Civic Will Republican Party of Mongolia (a country with a population like Chicago's, and a GDP a quarter as the smallest of any US state) were generally called "RP" rather than Civic Will Party, and has not collapsed, then Republican Party should simply be used (with a ToP Dab) for the party of Hoover and Bush, unless the other non-US RP's are more significant. I thot it was likely the previous discussants had nevertheless gotten the right answer bcz, e.g., i know that Rupert Murdoch is known as a vehement Australian republican, and i assumed there was a Republican Party (Australia) that he belonged to; there is not, per Politics of Australia. I also find that the RPs of Zambia, Vanuatu, Sudan, Puerto Rico, Portugal, and Pakistan either have no article, are defunct, or have articles that read (in the case of Republican Party (Pakistan)) like evidence of being either defunct or so unworthy of updating that they must be moribund. If continuing to work toward the top of the list produces similar results, the current use of the Republican Party title is against the naming conventions. One should be cautious against the typical American notion that "our Republican Party is bound to be the only one that matters", but the stupidity of that assumption does not prove its falsehood, and the evidence must be examined. (It may very well be that the US, in effecting its anti-monarchical movement via an anti-colonial struggle, and starting to sort out its internal politics with the example of the French Republic at hand, has invested the term "Republican", or more to the point, "Republican Party", with a magic that it can never have elsewhere -- or that, it just turns out for no specific reason, it has never found elsewhere.)
_ _ I have not looked far enuf to rule out keeping this page as an international Dab. However, the existing Republican Party (United States) page is not in fact adequate. If this title is not reassigned to the RP(US) page, there is a need on that page, for purposes of e.g. avoiding confusion in discussing US political history, for a ToP Dab. IMO it would begin
This is about the Republican Party that has existed in the United States from 1854 thru the present time.
and would continue with either
For the US party formerly named "Republican Party" and "Democratic Republican Party, see Democratic Party (United States). For other national US parties with "Republican" in their names, see Republican Parties of the United States.
or (explicit further Dab'n of a Dab-suffixed page),
For other present and past US parties whose names have included the word "Republican", see Republican Party (United States; disambiguation).
or (effectively implicit further Dab'n of a Dab-suffixed page),
For other present and past US parties whose names have included the word "Republican", see United States Republican Party (disambiguation).
Any of these three would be unusual for WP, which should be a factor to be considered re whether to move Republican Party to Republican Party (disambiguation), and Republican Party (United States) to Republican Party.
_ _ Bottom Line: If you're aware of an example of another RP that's significant in a significant multi-party polity, bring it forward, and avoid wasted effort searching. If not, it'd sure be nice if someone who's been working on this area, without confronting the problems of the scope in time and space of "RP", would share in the work i've begun. Failing that, i guess i'll finish it myself and share the results here.
--Jerzy•t 10:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Why a table rather than standard looking disamb page? edit

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

This isn't "List of worldwide Republican Parties". It's a disambiguation page. Can't it simply look like one? The table format just takes up space. Is there any real advantage to it? Hult041956 (talk) 23:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

It is indeed a non-conforming Dab: it lists all the parties that we can anticipate anyone calling "Republican Party". (One could conceive of a page called List of parties with "Republican" in their names, but such a list would be un-encyclopedic. Because the problems it could solve are not problems that people go to an encyclopedia for. Because it does not state knowledge, but just restates it in an awkward way. Likewise, neither a List of republican parties nor Republican party would be encyclopedic because "republican" and "party" are so ill-defined.) It should not even be in its current order, because its primary job is to help users who really should be looking under Republican Party, and helping people looking for something whose name is merely similar has to be subordinated to that job.
As a WP:MOSDAB-conforming Dab, the page could (I think i included all the existing info) look like what follows:
Agreed. (With no particular ideas about the order) it was something very nearly like this that I was imagining when I asked the above question. You're right: this page's job is not to explain what a Rebublican Party is, or even to survey such parties around the world; rather it is to direct a reader to the right article. Good job. Hult041956 (talk) 18:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Republican Party (disambiguation)

Republican Party may be:

United States political parties:


Ireland:


Other countries:

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Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Ireland 

   * Republican Labour Party, Northern Ireland, Britain
     This needs to be changed to:

Britain 

   * Republican Labour Party, Northern Ireland, Britain

This Party was never apart of the Irish signifying order and it's birth place was in Northern Ireland, Britain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.67.227 (talk) 20:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

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