Talk:Reactive Scientific Research Institute

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 12:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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Katyusha rocket launchers firing during WWII, which were developed at RNII

• ... that the Reactive Scientific Research Institute developed the Katyusha rocket launcher (pictured)? Source:
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  • Comment: could also use “created” rather than “developed”

Created by Ilenart626 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:26, 28 June 2022 (UTC).

• The page is well-referenced, long and new enough. No copyvio was observed. The prose is generally good though I made some minor edits. The hook is very interesting and supported by a reliable source but '(pictured)' should be inserted at the end (in Italic). However, the last sentence of the lead is just a bit baffling; "...and its research and development were very important for later achievements of the Soviet rocket and space programs." In what terms was it "very important"? I mean this line is just vague and even maybe POVish. --Mhhossein ^talk 13:18, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Mhhossein: and thanks for carrying out the review. Adding '(pictured)' sound fine. The last sentence of the lead is supported by the two quotations from Siddiqi and Chertok in the "Legacy" section. During my research for this article I found a number of comments on how important RNII was to the Soviet space program, so I thought it was worthwhile to include this detail in the lead. Note that I used "very important" as Siddiqi used "extremely important". What do you think? Ilenart626 (talk)

Hi Ilenart626, Ah I just noticed the quotes in the "Legacy" section which I think are compelling enough. We can go ahead with the nomination after '(pictured)' is added. --Mhhossein ^talk 06:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Already added (pictured) see above Ilenart626 (talk)

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Controversial nomination

This Wikipedia is made by humans for humans. Russian artillery kills thousands of civilians of Ukraine. I belive it is not the right time to show a Katyusha picture on this Wiki main page. Xx236 (talk) 08:26, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

You are entitled to your opinion, however I disagree as you are basically promoting censorship. We recently had J. K. Rowling as a featured article on the main page, should this had been removed due to her views on Transgender people? Wikipedia should not be suppressing information or avoiding controversial subjects. Suggest you review WP:DYKAIM, in particular "Wikipedia's goal is to build and maintain an encyclopedia covering all branches of human knowledge.". No mention of censorship.

And I agree that the Russian - Ukraine war is terrible, but note this article is about a Soviet research lab that existed 80 years ago when Ukraine and Russia were both part of the Soviet Union. In fact the two key people that the article promotes, Sergei Korolev and Valentin Glushko are Ukrainian. Ilenart626 (talk)

"In 1992, NII TP became part of Rosaviakosmos", which produces arms to kill the civilians. Xx236 (talk) 08:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Another unsupported assertion which is irrelevant to a Soviet research lab that existed 80 years ago. NII TP became the Keldysh Research Center which is now in the field of rocket & space industry specializing in rocket engine manufacturing and space power engineering. No idea what Rosaviakosmos also does and is it relevant to a picture taken 80 years ago of rockets being fired by Soviet personnel, ie Russian and Ukraine personnel fighting a common enemy? Ilenart626 (talk)