Talk:Ralph Stafford (died 1385)

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Latest comment: 4 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

@user:Serial Number 54129 as you created this page and have been its custodian so I am giving you a heads up that I wish to rename this page in line with many others to Sir Ralph Stafford. The criteria for this are:

WP:NAMINGCRITERIA Naturalness "The title is one that readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles"
WP:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility)#British nobility "4. Titles of knighthood such as Sir and Dame are not normally included in the article title... However, Sir may be used in article titles as a disambiguator when a name is ambiguous and one of those who used it was knighted"
and also WP:NATURAL

However there is another option, but you would be better qualified than I to decide if it is appropriate, "Ralph Stafford, Lord Stafford" as a courtesy title, because his father was not only Earl of Stafford but also Baron Stafford and at certain time is was customary for the eldest son of a noble to have and use a courtesy title.

-- PBS (talk) 09:29, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

@PBS: thanks for the ping. All your arguments are good; personally, I'd stick with "Sir Ralph" as it's our house style. Good point about him taking on a minor title, but the sources are not explicit it, which is why I never mentioned it here. They do, however, all refer to him as "Sir" :) go ahead! Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 13:30, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Moved to Sir Ralph Stafford -- PBS (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

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