Talk:Ralph Marcus Hare

This page should not be speedy deleted because...

This page should not be speedily deleted because...

I do think Ralph was a person that history should remember. He played a key role behind some public figures for decades.

I also realise this article needs at lot more work, but I am new to Wikipedia, and would like to learn what's needed.

Comet Racer (DH.88)

Ralph Marcus Hare pioneered a type of wooden composition for the Comet Racer (DH.88) in 1934. This gave it a strength comparable with the metals used in other planes of the day. The resulting lightness enabled it to travel faster, further and higher. The project was built in Hatfield Hertfordshire and was a key step to the later Mosquito. The DH.88 broke the record from England to Australia in 1934 and England to New Zealand in 1937.

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by TonicLevi (talk • contribs) 18:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Mosquito (DH.98)

Ralph was the stressman in the core team, alongside R E Bishop and Geoffrey De Havilland that designed and constructed the Mosquito aircraft also known as the Wooden Wonder during the late 1930's and flew in WWII. They were all secluded at Salisbury Hall which is now a museum ( http://www.dehavillandmuseum.co.uk/ ) dedicated to the aircraft. He was responsible for innovating the type of construction used, which allowed the plane to be constructed from wood, and allowed to to fly faster, higher and further than anything else of it's day.

Comet Passenger Jet (DH.106)

He also was the Head Structural Engineer, in charge of the wings on the worlds first passenger jet airliner, called the Comet. The Comet was a beautiful aircraft that had a critical flaw in the window area. Sadly this flaw led to a number of crashes that resulted in fatalities. Ralph was key to figuring out what went wrong and how to resolve it.

In Media

Ralph also gave lectures, appeared in a few documentaries and was widely known in his industry for his time and decades after. He wrote the forward to the book "Mosquito, 50 years on". He was the first interviewee for the documentary "Wooden Wonder". He is seen here in that documentary shown on the History Channel at 5m30s, 7m18s and so on : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxoZRogbRQ

Mosquito Museum

Salisbury Hall is now a museum dedicated to the memory of the Mosquito and it's heritage. It contains original aircraft, replicas and much more.

--TonicLevi (talk) 20:29, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Like I said on your talk page, the really important thing to make this an eligible article for Wikipedia is citations to published sources and articles. So video sources good, book sources good, magazine articles good. If he's mentioned in text displayed at the museum, you can cite that too. Sorry about this - one of the sort of basic values of Wikipedia is that it presents material that's been covered in other published sources, not material that's just your own private knowledge (since we have no way of verifying and checking that). I would love to see this article kept - he sounds like a really interesting person - but it may need more published sources. (I was looking on Google Books to help you and the book Comet! seems to mention him, but I can't see those sections.) As personal advice, your knowledge of Mr. Hare sounds really interesting - if you have a lot of fond memories of him, I'm sure it would also make a lovely, interesting resource for posterity if you posted them on a blog publishing site like Blogspot, since that would give you a lot more freedom to tell your own story in your own words and with your own pictures than Wikipedia does. Blythwood (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

The de Havilland Aircraft Musuem kindly gave permission to use the document that shows the original members of the Mosquito team. I take your points though. Cetainly some of this infomation is not really the right stuff for wikipedia. However, the facts of his involvement with certain aircraft are worth a note I would hope. It's just a case of tracking down the documentation.

I have found a number of books on Google Books which mention him whilst working at De Havilland, Hawker Siddeley and British Aerospace, when he ended up with the equivalent of a Chief Officer role for about 9 years. There is also additional material from the de Havilland Museum which shows clearly the team involved in building the de Havilland Mosquito. What I prepose, is that I rewrite this article, using only the quoted media. There is an also a Death notice which appears in the Telegraph.co.uk webpage which I can use for dates. There was a recent documentary called "Jet! When Britain Ruled the Skies", which he appears in as a posthumous interviewee along with the documentary called "Wooden Wonder" which appeared on the History channel. There are one or two others, but I wont look for them now. There are some other sites, one is a blogspot site that has an obituary, pretty much what the article is currently, and another local club website that lists a lecture he gave in 2001/2002 season, but do I reference these or not? TonicLevi (talk) 03:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)