Talk:Quadricycle (EU vehicle classification)

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OK, I've hit a brick wall here. I've been trying to find cites for the "Decree of 29th May 1986" and the plans to update the European Directive with emissions guidelines, and I can't find either. I've spent a lot of time trolling about Legifrance (e.g. ending up at http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do?idArticle=LEGIARTI000006841575&idSectionTA=LEGISCTA000006159577&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006074228&dateTexte=20040310 ) and Journal Officiel (http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/) with the help of Google Translate, and I've got basically nowhere. I can't actually see a decree of any relevance on 29th May 1986 (checking the journal record from 27th May through to 5th June, at least - it's pretty dense, and some things seemingly aren't reported on for several weeks even though others are included on the same day), and Legifrance's record of, e.g. the highway code has me just clicking around in circles, with anything much older than the turn of the millennium being very patchy.

Anyone else want to take this on and try to cite it? Particularly any bilingual english/french speakers? Right now it's not even certain if the mentioned things exist or are in any way accurate. If not, they need to be removed. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 12:25, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Well if they can't be verified as per WP:V they need to be removed. It is better to have a small amount of verifiable information than a large amount of unverifiable and probably wrong information. - Ahunt (talk) 14:10, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Move of Low-energy vehicle

I proposed to move the info from Low-energy vehicle to Motorised_quadricycle and add an "energy consumption" section at Motorised_quadricycle (which can contain the graph (File:Horsepower required for various speeds.png ) As you can read at the deleted entry (see here), a low-energy vehicle is a low-speed vehicle -although the opposite isn't necessairily the case-.

Given that the low-energy vehicle term is unreferenced, and there doesn't seem to be any sources online that support the existance of the term, and since an anonymous wikipedian even allready put up a request to simply delete the article, I propose moving the info from the page quickly to the page indicated. KVDP (talk) 10:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Makes sense to me, as long as the term really exists. If not then deletion may be a better option. - Ahunt (talk) 13:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

The term "Low-energy vehicle" didn't exist, I just referred to the idea behind it (Low-energy vehicle page was made by someone else btw, not me). Anyway, I moved the useful bits of text to the talk page of Fuel_economy_in_automobiles. This issue is now closed. KVDP (talk) 12:50, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that! - Ahunt (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

No payload limit for L6e?

That a payload is not specified sounds suspicious to me. Even the L7e has a pretty sorry 200kg limit for passenger weight. (Which is unreasonable IMO. Are they biased against fat people and body builders?) Dqeswn (talk) 12:13, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Ambiguity

Tango T600 and Fiat 126, are those quadricycles?

Article states: The quadricycle is a European Union vehicle category for four-wheeled microcars, ...

What about 3 wheeled cars like Isetta, Reliant Regal, Peel P50, Messerschmitt KR200...?? 185.18.60.184 (talk) 11:16, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Isn't it answer by EU directive? According to DIRECTIVE 2002/24/EC of 18 March 2002:

(c) motor tricycles, i.e. vehicles with three symmetrically arranged wheels (category L5e) fitted with an engine having a cylinder capacity of more than 50 cm 3 if of the internal combustion type and/or a maximum design speed of more than 45 km/h.

This Directive shall also apply to quadricycles, i.e. motor vehicles with four wheels having the following characteristics:

(a) light quadricycles whose unladen mass is not more than 350 kg (category L6e), not including the mass of the batteries in case of electric vehicles, whose maximum design speed is not more than 45 km/h, and

• (i) whose engine cylinder capacity does not exceed 50 cm 3 for spark (positive) ignition engines, or
• (ii) whose maximum net power output does not exceed 4 kW in the case of other internal combustion engines, or
• (iii) whose maximum continuous rated power does not exceed 4 kW in the case of an electric motor.

(...)

(b) quadricycles, other than those referred to in (a), whose unladen mass is not more than 400 kg (category L7e) (550 kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including the mass of batteries in the case of electric vehicles, and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15 kW. These vehicles shall be considered to be motor tricycles and shall fulfil the technical requirements applicable to motor tricycles of category