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The Iran per-country section looks very much like being lifted from some existing (academic) material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


a farming technology known to have developed entirely in ancient Persia, Does this then mean "brought to an exquisite peak of technical perfection in Persia before it was even considered elsewhere?" I've seen the aerial photographs, too. But how are these ancient qanat systems dated? By fatwa?Wetman 00:09, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

No, by Bush's State of the Union Address. How else do you think they date archeological remains?
Even the name Qanat is Persian.--Zereshk 03:53, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Qouting Jona Lendering from his website * [1]: " As the ceramics of the farms at the exit of a qanat offer an indication of its age, it is possible to date the first qanats to the late second millennium B.C.E.; they were constructed in the country that was once known as Maka and is now called Oman. In the Late Iron Age, the irrigation technique spread to Iran; in the sixth century, many qanats were dug in the area east of the Zagros mountains" — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:31, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Tikrit argues a South-East Arabian origin for the falaj (or Qanat) and so I'm adding that to the article. To be honest, I think it makes sense for falaj to have its own page, specifically because of recent archaeological finds, publications and clearer understanding of these systems and their role in the early UAE (or Omana or Magan, or Makkan). It's a concept with its own name in Arabic and its own place in Arab (specifically UAE) history. I'd be interested in any views on this. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


I'm not sure if the origin of the word "Karez" is Pashtun, as is claimed by the article. The word Kariz was extensively used in old traditional Persian architecture.--Zereshk 10:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


Why is Falaj given as a reference unless to advertise the company? It should be removed. 06:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

That's a coincidence. In the UAE a qanat is called Falaj[2] -- Szvest - Wiki me up ® 11:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


I agree, it's clearly just two names for the same thing. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 15:27, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not merge thisEdit

It is part of a series of articles I am writing about Chinese architecture, the Silk Route, cities along the Silk Route, the geography/geology along the Silk Route, etc. Please let me change the name of the article. This is just one aspect of the city and the Silk Route. Plus, all the pictures are from the Turfan Water Museum, so those will have to be removed. --Mattisse 16:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I will rewrite the articleEdit

I am only interested in the Silk Route aspects so I will rewrite the article to focus on that more exclusively. I do not want any of the Qanat article in the one I wrote, as it is all irrelevant information to my article plan. I wrote this article because the Qanat article is long and confusing and does not serve my needs. It has so much irrelevant material for my interests that I cannot even make myself read it. I will also change the name of this article, if that will prevent this awful merge. --Mattisse 16:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Article has been rewritten & renamedEdit

I would have been disastrous to dump my specific article about a specific place into that huge wandering article on Qanat. I just went through a great deal of trouble to change the whole article (even though right now it is DYK) and to change the name to prevent such an awful event. Hopefully you can let my little article alone now. It would have been drowned in that messy Qanat article, and the point of it completely lost, as the article which has nothing to do with mine. --Mattisse 18:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Fine, I think you're right that it works well as it is now, though I have added at least a link from the Turfan water system‎ article to qanat. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 11:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
From what I can make out from the qanat article, they are not quite the same systems, although the rambling description of qanat is unclear and the article is a grab bag article with everything but the kitchen sink thrown—it too long to bother to read and try to sort it out—so many inadequate descriptions of other countries thrown in, probably the result of your "merge at all costs" policy. And most of the qanat references are taken from two books on Iran (Persia) published by the University of Texas, so the qanat article seems POV. Plus why add more mess to the qanat article? Many of the pictures are misrepresentations of Turfan's system as it is. The whole article is misleading. --Mattisse 12:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough - I'll bow to your greater knowledge of the subject as a whole. Presumably there ought to be a general article on "water systems fed by sloping tunnels from upland aquifers", but I'm certainly in no position to write it, or even to know what title it should go under. I agree that at present this one seems heavily skewed towards Persia. --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 08:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


For some reason the two pictures that are supposed to adorn the very top of this article aren't visible. And when I click on them, it acts as if I'm trying to upload new images! John Baez (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Not only that, but the diagram of the wind catcher appears to be incorrect. The wind does not flow in to the tower, air is drawn up through the house by the low pressure on the leeward side of the tower. Mr. Fosi, 10:11, 7 August 2009 (EDT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

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why a separate article?Edit

Qanat / Qanaah literally means 'channel' in Arabic. This article should be merged with 'irrigation channel'. -- (talk) 13:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Qanat > Canal !Edit

canal: early 15c., from French canal, chanel "water channel, tube, pipe, gutter" (12c.), from Latin canalis "water pipe, groove, channel," noun use of adjective from canna "reed" (see cane). Originally in English "a pipe for liquid," its sense transferred by 1670s to "artificial waterway." cane: late 14c., from Old French cane "reed, cane, spear" (13c., Modern French canne), from Latin canna "reed, cane," from Greek kanna, perhaps from Assyrian qanu "tube, reed" (cf. Hebrew qaneh, Arabic qanah "reed"), from Sumerian gin "reed." But Tucker finds this borrowing "needless" and proposes a native Indo-European formation from a root meaning "to bind, bend." Sense of "walking stick" in English is 1580s. says: Böri (talk) 10:19, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposalEdit

I propose that Turpan water system be merged into Qanat. The Turpan water system is karez or kariz, that is already been redirected to Qanat, and its Chinese version zh:坎儿井 is linked to qanat too.Hahahaha哈 (talk) 03:33, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't agree; the Turpan water system article is about a specific implementation of the technology (like Aqueduct (bridge) versus Aqueduct of Segovia). Turpan water system is long enough to stand on its own, and this article is incredibly long already and would suffer from a merger. - (talk) 20:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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