Talk:Pygmalion (mythology)

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Pygmalion is also a excellent film relesed in 1938, similar to my fair lady, but not a musical. I will add info at a later time, I was just looking this up before going to bed, and I do not have the time at this moment.Drn8 05:21, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Since the article mentions horror films and other stories about giving life to dead objects, how about Frankenstein?--FrickFrack 16:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It should also be mentioned that the painter Franz von stuck was responsible for my personal favourite painting of pygmalion, not as detailed but he really captures the essence of longing.

"In Alimo's narrative..." there is no citation or reference to back this up. Who is Alimo? And why is he the first thing mentioned in the background section? Unless a citation is provided, this should be deleted. NastyBrutishAndTall (talk) 03:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Searching for "alimo pygmalion" gives only this wikipedia page and several pages quoting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.29.224 (talk) 00:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Another Gerome version

In addition to the painting shown in the article, Gerome did a second, more restrained version, with precisely the same scene but with point-of-view behind Galatea. Citation:

High Museum of Art, Atlanta, Georgia, Rings, Five Passions in World Art,, Henry N. Abrams, New York, 1996, pp. 54-55 CharlesTheBold 04:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Groundhog Day

The long quotation of Stanley Fish under Films is copyrighted material from the Times. It should be greatly abbreviated by someone familiar with these matters.13:29, 6 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.116.8.66 (talk)

Films

Maybe I'm thick or something, but some of the films mentioned seem to me to have very little to do with Pygmalion at all. Why are they here? 219.89.24.233 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC).

I agree with the above -- films like Trading Places and Pretty Woman, just to name a few of these entries, are related to the myth only because there is some sort of character transformation, which is so broad as to encompass nearly every narrative in existence. I respectfully suggest this article be trimmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.253.82 (talk) 22:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

There should be mention of the Film "Bicentennial Man" which has a female robot character called Galatea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.152.13 (talk) 02:41, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

It bothers me that a lot of the films and episodes of TV shows listed could be considered loose adaptations of George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion (or even of My Fair Lady) but have no real connection to the story in Metamorphoses. I am even more troubled to see that this has obviously been the case for at least three and a half years now.--Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 11:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Would https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film) be considered an example - “Two boys create their ideal virtual women, who magically comes to life”, etc. 84.92.59.184 (talk) 08:41, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Greek-Roman Names

The Article is described as a greek myth but they use the roman names Venus and Cupid. Should this be changed?--Vennificus (talk) 19:01, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

The myth of Pygmalion is Greek, but since Ovid was Roman he would use the Latin names - Aphrodite then becomes Venus and Eros becomes Cupid. I think it's correct to use the names used by those we are citing as sources, so no it should not be changed Mottenen (talk) 22:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Language of article

The wording/language of this article is a bit peculiar- is it a translation? I don't understand it all well enough to improve it myself- For example the bit about vertex (?) of Venus is not a sentance.

IceDragon64 (talk) 23:13, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

It's quite a mess all of it, actually. I might take a look at it when I'm done with Myrrha (but I don't like working seriously on more than one article at a time). Mottenen (talk) 22:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

'It was Cupid’s ring which made love achieved.'? NantucketNoon (talk) 04:15, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think the original editor was a native English speaker. I have removed the awkward and nonsensical parts (namely the "vertex" bit and the awkward phrasing of Pygmalion's shyness whilst making his wish). I've also removed all the bits about Cupid and the ring. The story summary is currently organized under "In Ovid", and there's absolutely no mention of Cupid in any of the translations of Ovid's Metamorphoses (in the Pygmalion story, that is; Cupid does appear in the other stories) that I've read. If anyone wants to dispute this, feel free. Or perhaps if we don't want to go strictly by Ovid's version, then the article can be re-organized, giving the summary section a more appropriate heading.--06:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.60.71.168 (talk)

Variant translations involving the gender of Pygmalion's child Paphos

This article apparently follows the Garth/Dryden translation, which it cites (http://classics.mit.edu/Ovid/metam.10.tenth.html#373), and describes Pygmalion's child Paphos as a son. At least one very recent translation (2000 or 2001) by A.S. Kline agrees (http://etext.virginia.edu/latin/ovid/trans/Metamorph10.htm). However, other translations describe Paphos as a daughter. These include Brooks Moore's 1922 edition (http://www.theoi.com/Text/OvidMetamorphoses10.html) and Charles Martin's highly acclaimed 2005 edition (January 2005, W.W. Norton). I am currently teaching Ovid in a world literature class using the Martin translation, and I discovered this disparity when a student paper referred to Paphos as a son. But I don't read Latin or know much if anything about issues in textual criticism or extant Classical sources for these translations. Perhaps someone who knows Latin or has more info on problems involving the source material could resolve this controversy over the identity of Paphos or at least acknowledge in the article that there is some disagreement or confusion about it.

Tomhock (talk) 17:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Help wanted

I have been attempting to refine improper linking to Pygmalion (play) and Pygmalion (mythology), and I could use some assistance cleaning up {{Pygmalion}}, {{Pygmalion navbox}}, and {{My Fair Lady}} (the latter two which I have recently created). I have posted some particular issues at Talk:Pygmalion (play)#Template:Pygmalion. Please feel free to jump in and edit the templates or leave comments there.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:45, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Cultural depictions

There is also another movie where a mannequin comes to life.... 2601:183:4481:7A10:B5B1:54D1:14F9:E6DA (talk) 17:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

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