Talk:Pussy Fairy (OTW)/GA1

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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 08:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

The references style is different from the usual citing of online ones, but it can stay like that though I will make comments for improvement there and other sections when I begin the review shortly. --Kyle Peake (talk) 08:41, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

• I am using the Harvard citation style, which can be seen in articles like Pod (The Breeders album). I would push back against the "usual citing of online ones" phrasing as I have seen multiple citation styles used throughout Wikipedia and there is not one set style. Aoba47 (talk) 19:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

• Aoba47 Yeah there is nothing wrong with the actual template, just the formatting as I have identified. --Kyle Peake (talk) 19:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you for the response. I hope I did not come across as rude with my comment. Just wanted to explain. I will do the revisions later today if that is okay with you. Thank you again for the help! Aoba47 (talk) 22:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• (Single version) → (single version)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• (Album version) → (album version)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Link to the music video in the infobox

• The link is already at the end of the article so it should not be in the infobox as well. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• It is supposed to be in the infobox instead; that's why there's even at template for this. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I have changed this, but just because there is a template, it does not mean it is required for everyone to use on here. Aoba47 (talk) 21:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• A sourced mention of the stylized title is required in the body

• Added. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "for her third studio album" → "for her third studio album,"

• Added. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "produced the song and co-wrote it" → "produced the song, and co-wrote it"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• ""Pussy Fairy (OTW)" was released as the album's third single" → "The song was released for digital download and streaming as the album's third single" with the appropriate target

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The single is a" → "It is an"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "ballad featuring an alchemy" → "ballad, featuring an alchemy" with the target

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "intended to activate the listener's" → "that is intended to activate the listener's"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "received positive reviews, with praise for its" → "received generally positive reviews from music critics, who mostly praised its" with the target

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Reviewers compared the explicit" → "They compared the explicit"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target 1990s music to 1990s in music

• I do not find the link to be particularly helpful in this case. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• It is about the type of music in the 1990s so I believe this is fully relevant. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I still disagree because the category is so broad in my opinion, but I have added it. Aoba47 (talk) 21:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "was Aiko's first solo song" → "was Aiko's first solo single"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "the top 40 on the" → "the top 40 of the US"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and was certified gold on the" → "and was ultimately certified gold by the" with the target

• Revised, although I do not think "ultimately" is needed here. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The single appeared on" → "The song appeared on"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove the Rolling Stone Top 100 as that is not notable for the lead; keep the other two charts but mention NZ was Hot Singles

• Why is the Rolling Stone chart not notable enough for the lead? It seems notable enough to me. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• It's similar to the Billboard charts and is obviously a less notable chart --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Removed, although that does sound more like personal opinion than anything. Aoba47 (talk) 21:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Brandon Parker directed the song's music video" → "Brandon Parker directed the music video for "Pussy Fairy (OTW)"" with the appropriate wikilink

• I have added the link, but I think the current wording is better. Aoba47 (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "for the choreography" → "for its choreography"

• I do not think "its" would work here as it would be unclear what it is referring to. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "facts on the song, video, and her personal life" → "facts about the song, visual, and her personal life" to specify what video

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "For further promotion" → "For further promotion of the song"

• Revised with slightly different wording. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target capsule collection to Capsule wardrobe

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "of hoodies and t-shirts and a" → "of hoodies and t-shirts, as well as a"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "will be included on a" → "is slated for release on a"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target deluxe edition to Special edition

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Background and release

• "Jhené Aiko used a conversation" → "Aiko used a conversation" on the img main text

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "inspiration for the single" → "inspiration for the song" also on the text

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Jhené Aiko co-wrote "Pussy Fairy (OTW)" with" → "Aiko co-wrote "Pussy Fairy (OTW)" with"

• Aiko needs to be linked here and her full name used since this is the first time she mentioned in the body of the article. Aoba47 (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• This is not what is supposed to be done for lead artists on songs --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• The lead and the body of the article are treated as separate entities so items need to be linked in both. You are are wrong here. Aoba47 (talk) 21:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "when she asked her boyfriend" → "after her boyfriend"

• She did not name the song after her boyfriend though so that would not make sense. Aoba47 (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [1][2][3] should all be solely at the end of the sentence

• Moved. Aoba47 (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and recorded on a reference microphone" → "while recorded on a reference microphone"

• I do not think "while" works here. Aiko recorded her vocals on a reference microphone, but it is not clear that Việt Lê produced the song while this was happening. Aoba47 (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "were the song's audio engineers" → "were the audio engineers for the song"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and were assisted by" → "and had assistance from"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Gregg Rominiecki did the" → "Gregg Rominiecki handled the"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "on January 16, 2020 for digital download and streaming" → "for digital download and streaming as a single on January 16, 2020" with the targets

• I have revised this sentence in a different way. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "It was the third single" → "It served as the third single"

• See above. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove target on Chilombo

• It needs to be linked since this is the first time it is mentioned in the body of the article. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• You are not supposed to do this with the album that a song is from --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• You are incorrect. Again, items need to be linked in both the lead and the body of the article as they are treated separately. Look at something like Style (Taylor Swift song) as an example for this. Aoba47 (talk) 21:44, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target capsule collection to Capsule wardrobe

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "dressed as a fairy along with the single's" → "dressed as a fairy, alongside the song's"

• Revised, although the comma is not necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "digital copy of Chilombo was" → "digital copy of the album was"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "would be a part of" → "would be included on"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "However, later that month, Aiko confirmed its inclusion after unveiling the album's track listing" → "However, Aiko confirmed the inclusion of it after unveiling the album's track listing later that month"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The single is three minutes and one second long" → "The song is 3:01 long"

• I think it is better to write it out. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

*MOS:NUM will make it so you will have to change all to proper numbers anyway, so it is better to just lay out in the format I suggested for both --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I still very much disagree with it as the minutes/seconds part is not clear with that wording, but I have changed it. Aoba47 (talk) 21:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "it is extended to three minutes and 41 seconds" → "it has an extended length of 3:41"

• See above. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• See above. Aoba47 (talk) 21:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target clean to Clean version

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "which has less explicit lyrics" → "which replaces the explicit lyrics with PG-13 versions" since that is what the article instates

• I would rather paraphrase as I do not think a quote here is necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I believe the wording has its issues either way, since "less explicit" implies that they were still explicit to a degree

• The PG-13 part would also imply that the lyrics still have some level of explicit content. Aoba47 (talk) 21:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "A music video" → "An accompanying music video" with the wikilink

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target The Big Island to Hawaii (Island)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "that she would release a new version" → "that she will release a new version"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target deluxe edition to Special edition

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• Target sound bowl to Standing bell on the img main text

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target ballad to Sentimental ballad

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target sound bowl to Standing bell

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "This instrument is played throughout Chilombo" → "The instrument is featured throughout the album"

• Revised, but I kept the album title. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Aiko chose D major for" → "Aiko chose the note of D major for"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [16][17] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• The sources cover specific parts of the sentence, and since quotes are being specifically used here, I do not think that is a good idea. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target sound therapy to Music therapy

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [16][18][19] should all be solely at the end of the sentence

• I do not think it is a good idea as it would be unclear what parts of the sentence are being supported by the citations. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and used them" → "and had used them"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Are you sure this sentence belongs here though, since it is background on why she used the bowls so maybe the previous section is better suited?

• This is the first time sound bowls are discussed in the article, and since they play a large part of the song's composition, I think this information is best suited for this section. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Along with this instrument, the composition for" → "Along with the instrument, the composition of"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "In Vulture.com, Halle Kiefer" → "In Vulture, Halle Kiefer"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [21][22] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• See previous parts about this. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The single is about sexuality" → "The song is linked to sexuality" to avoid repetitive wording in the sentence

• I do not think "linked to" works in this context. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Can you try something else since about is too repetitive in this context? --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I do not see it as that repetitive and I cannot think of another way of wording it, so no. Aoba47 (talk) 21:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [4][20][23] should all be solely at the end of the sentence

• See previous parts about this. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Should "pussy fairy" be in speech marks?

• Added. Aoba47 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Noisey should not be italicised

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "summarized the message" → "summarized the message of the song" to specify it is not about her acting, as aforementioned

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [24][25] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• See previous parts about this. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "which some writers called" → "which some writers dubbed"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Nalae Anais White for The Fader described the single" → "Nalae Anais White, writing for The Fader, described the song"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and "None of Your Concern"" → "and "None of Your Concern", from 2019"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Stephen Kearse for" → "Stephen Kearse from"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "wrote that the single was a part of a" → "wrote that the song was part of a"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "music, in which she sings about" → "music that features her singing about"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The lyrics were characterized" → "The lyrics of "Pussy Fairy (OTW)" were characterized" since it is a new para so this is the correct prose

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Hypebeast should not be italicised

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and sings," → "and she sings,"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "to make the listener question" → "for making the listener question"

• The suggestion does not make sense in this context. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "remarked that she acts" → "remarked that Aiko acts"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "“Don’t be surprised boy" → ""Don’t be surprised boy"

• I am not sure what you mean by this. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• For any of the suggestions where I haven't put forward changing of any wording but cited quotes, you have used the wrong speech mark type --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I still do not know what you mean by this. I do not understand where this would be double quotation marks used here. Aoba47 (talk) 21:50, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "you can fly.”" → "you can fly.""

• See above. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Introduce Big Sean as her ex-boyfriend

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [23][28] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• See previous parts on this. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "identifying the line," → "identifying the line" since comma is not needed for one line

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "smile", as directed toward" → "smile" as directed towards"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "“I got you sprung" → ""I got you sprung"

• I am not sure what you mean with this one. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and me time”," → "and me time","

• See above. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [26][29] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• See previous parts on this. It does not make sense to move the citations to the end of the sentence as they are two different critical opinions (with quotes). on the lyric so it putting it at the end would be unnecessarily confusing. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "while White believed that part was about" → "while White believed they were about"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "received generally positive reviews from music critics" → "was met with generally positive reviews from music critics" with the target

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Billboard's Carl Lamarre" → "Billboard's Carl Lamarre"

• I do not see the difference here. Aoba47 (talk)

• This is properly italicising Billboard and not getting in the way of the apostrophe --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Changed. Aoba47 (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "While reviewing the album" → "In a review of the album"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "said the song was" → "said the song is"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "described the song" → "described the latter"

• I would prefer to avoid using "the latter" whenever possible. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• In this context, it is preferred to avoid confusion --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I used the song title instead. I'm never using the former/latter. Aoba47 (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "saying it shows Aiko" → "saying the song shows Aiko"

• A previous part of the sentence uses song so it would too repetitive to say it again here. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Trey Alston commended the lyrics as" → "Alston commended the lyrics as"

• I'd prefer to use the critic's full name since it is the first time he is mentioned in this sentence. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• See WP:NAMES to understand suggestions like this --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I still prefer using the full name of a critic when he or she is first mentioned in a section even if they were already introduced in a previous section to help readers remember who this person is rather than just putting the last name. Aoba47 (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "how Aiko's focus on" → "how Aiko's focus around"

• The correct phasing is "focus on". Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target vibrational healing to Energy medicine

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "top 24 songs of the year" → "top 24 songs of the year so far"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• This sentence should be at the end of the section instead since it is a critical ranking

• I disagree. It is a part of this paragraph because the critic also focuses on the sexual lyrics. I have never see critical rankings including at the end of a section just because they are critical rankings. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "on the sacral chakra since" → "on the sacral chakra, since"

• The comma is not necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "the song as an album higlight, Laura Snapes" → "the song as a highlight of the album, Snapes"

• I prefer "album highlight" because it is more concise. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Stephen Kearse enjoyed "Pussy Fairy (OTW)", but" → "Kearse enjoyed "Pussy Fairy (OTW)", though"

• I prefer "but". Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• ""Happiness Over Everything (H.O.E.)" despite" → ""Happiness Over Everything (H.O.E.)", despite"

• The comma is not needed here. Aoba47 (talk) 01:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• In the context it is, since commas are usually used before "despite" appears --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [36] is not needed since that is only two citations, which make up the entire para anyway

• I would prefer to keep it to just cover my bases and avoid any accusations that this is original research or something along those lines. Aoba47 (talk) 01:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• But who has actually said that? I believe this citation is pointless since it is backed up in the following sentences. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I would still prefer to keep it just so people will not tag it as uncited material or original research. Aoba47 (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Vulture.com's Craig Jenkins said" → "Vulture's Craig Jenkins said"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "showed R&B singers being" → "demonstrated R&B singers being"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "as examples of provocative R&B" → "as examples of similar R&B"

• I'd prefer to keep "provocative" to emphasize why the critic is making these comparisons. Aoba47 (talk) 01:26, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Similar makes it more specific why they are making R&B comparisons to different works though --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Chart performance

• Retitle to Commercial performance

• Retitled. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "peaked at number 40 on the" → "peaked at number 40 on the US"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "on March 21, 2020, and was" → "for the issue date March 21, 2020, and remained"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove the second solo single info since that is irrelevant and was after this time; change this sentence to "By doing so, it stood as Aiko's first..."

• Revised. Though I disagree with your wording, and went with my own to be more concise. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "was certified gold on the Recording Industry Association of America for selling 500,000 units" → "was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for selling 500,000 certified units in the United States" with the target

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "on the Hot R&B Songs Billboard chart," → "on the Billboard Hot R&B Songs chart," with the target

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [42][43] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• I disagree. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• ""Pussy Fairy (OTW)" which went to number five" → ""Pussy Fairy (OTW)", which appeared at number five"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "It also reached number five on the" → "It reached the same position on the US"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove wikilink on R&B Digital Songs

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [45][46] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• I disagree. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The single reached number eight on the" → "It reached number 8 on the US" per MOS:NUM "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all figures: we may write either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty-two dogs, not five cats and 32 dogs."

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [47][48] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• I disagree. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "it peaked at number three" → "the song peaked at number three"

• [49][50] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• I disagree. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "It also appeared on the" → "The song further appeared on the US"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove target on R&B/Hip-Hop Digital Song Sales

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [52][53] should both be solely at the end of the sentence

• I disagree. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Target Digital Song Sales to Digital Songs

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Along with these Billboard charts" → "Along with the Billboard charts"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "peaked at number 28 on the" → "peaked at number 28 on the US"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The single appeared on international charts." → "The single further appeared on international charts."

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [56][57] are not necessary after the above sentence since they are only two positions that are backed up straight afterwards anyway

• I would prefer to keep a citation for this sentence. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• It's backed up in the following two sentences, which end that para anyway --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Again, I would prefer to keep a citation for this sentence. Aoba47 (talk) 21:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "the single reached number 84" → "it reached number 84"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "and spent a week on the chart" → "spending a week on the chart"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• That was the New Zealand Hot Singles chart position; fix this

• Could you clarify this point. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• New Zealand Hot Singles chart is clearly the one the song charted on, yet you have falsely stated New Zealand singles chart here --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 21:58, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "on January 27, 2020" → "for the issue date of January 27, 2020"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:42, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Music video

• "was inspired by those used in late 1990s" → "was inspired by that of late 1990s"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "The song and music video received" → "The song and music video simultaneously received"

• I do not think "simultaneously" is necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• It should be to show the connection, since otherwise something about the song's popularity in the music video section seems redundant --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
• Added. Aoba47 (talk) 22:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• [58] is not needed since that is only three citations and this claim is backed up in the entirety of the para

• I'd prefer to keep the citation to make sure there is no room for doubt. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• That would be like me writing at the top of a section that a song received generally positive reviews and feeling the need to add a citation when it's backed up further on; there's absolutely no need --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Again, I would prefer to keep it, particularly since it includes reviews that mention this that are not stated directly in the prose. Aoba47 (talk) 22:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Carolyn Droke described it as" → "Carolyn Droke described the visual as"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Halle Kiefer compared the warehouse set and" → "Kiefer compared its warehouse set and"

• Revised, but kept the critic's full name since it is the first time she is mentioned in this section. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "to break down the dance" → "to break down the dance in the music video"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "the music video, and" → "its music video, and"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• "Aaron Williams likened the concept" → "Aaron Williams likened the concept of her video"

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:46, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Credits and personnel

• Please see here and re-write everything accordingly

• Revised. Thank you for the link. Aoba47 (talk) 01:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Add wikilinks and targets for the people where they can be

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

• Could you explain this to me? For some reason, I could never get a solid grasp on tables/charts even though I've been on Wikipedia for a while now. Aoba47 (talk) 01:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Take "Physical" as an example --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I have attempted to revise it, but I am still not sure if I did it correctly. Aoba47 (talk) 22:02, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Certifications

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

• Could you explain this further to me. Aoba47 (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• The citation should come directly after United States (RIAA) instead

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Cite sales+streaming figures instead of shipment figures

• I could not find the exact number. Aoba47 (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I did not mean change what number is cited, I meant the 500,000 units are certified ones so the double-dagger should be after them instead --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 22:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

References

Footnotes

• For consistency, years are not required for citations when that is the only one cited from that source; fix Rap-Up 2020 for consistency with AllMusic for example
• There are some redundant ones here, but I have identified them in the other stages of this review

Citations

• Good job with the archiving from you

• Thank you. It honestly can be a pain to do, but it is so important for the future of the article Aoba47 (talk) 02:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Copyvio score looks fine at 27.5%

• Thank you for checking. Aoba47 (talk) 02:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• This may be confusing since they are not numbered in the layout, but I will be identifying the refs in the numbered order, as of current, below
• Remove wikilink on Hypebeast for ref 4 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
• Def Jame → Def Jam on ref 5

• I am not sure how that happened lol. Aoba47 (talk) 02:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Cite Noisey as publisher instead on ref 7
• Remove target on Billboard for refs 19, 20, 21, 31, 33, 34, 40, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 51 and 57
• Cite Vulture instead for ref 22 with the target
• Retitle ref 23 to American single certifications – Jhené Aiko – Pussy Fairy (OTW)

• Done but putting quotation marks around the song. Aoba47 (talk) 02:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• That is a violation of MOS:QWQ and I suggested the retitling as that is how single certifications appear when cited from the table, which you should replicate to make the article look as accurate as possible --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 22:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove wikilink on YouTube for ref 28
• Cite Vulture instead for ref 30 with no target or wikilink
• Remove target on Vibe for ref 35
• Delete ref 36 per WP:RSP

• If you are referencing the Forbes source, then I am confused because it is a reliable and very high-quality publication. Aoba47 (talk) 02:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I linked to WP:RSP, which clearly identifies Forbes contributers as unreliable and you have cited a source from one --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Revised. Aoba47 (talk) 22:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Remove wikilink on Rolling Stone for ref 52
• Remove wikilink on The Fader for ref 54
• Remove wikilink on Uproxx for ref 55

• Rather than putting the same message under each bullet point, I will write this at the end. I treat each citation as separate so I link the website/publisher for each one. I know some editors do it only on the first instance, and I know others that do it for each instance like I do. I have worked on several articles with this formatting style that have gone through the FAC process successfully. My thought process is that each citation should be able to stand alone so if a reader looks at any one of them by itself, then they can get all the information they need and go to any related Wikipedia article. For that reason, I have kept the links for the citations. Aoba47 (talk) 02:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I understand that, but take a look at WP:OVERLINK --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• I have done it this way for multiple featured articles, so I am not changing it. Aoba47 (talk) 22:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

External links

• Remove the music video from here

• I prefer having the music video source at the end of the article rather than the infobox. Aoba47 (talk) 02:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• That's not correct as I explained in the other stage of this review --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

• Revised. Though I honestly prefer it at the end. Aoba47 (talk) 22:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold after a nice, smooth review! --Kyle Peake (talk) 19:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

• @Kyle Peake: Thank you for the review. I have addressed everything, but I have left some questions about the table/chart comments as I could never wrap my head around that part of Wikipedia for whatever reason.

• I disagreed with putting all of the citations at the end of the sentence as different parts of the sentence are tied to specific citations, whether it is a quote or a critical opinion, so I believe putting all of the citations at the end would cause unnecessary confusion. I also disagree with unlinking items in the citation as I treat them all separately and link the website/publisher for each one. Just wanted to explain those two parts.

• You have helped me to improve the article immensely so I greatly appreciate the thorough review. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do, and have a great rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 02:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Aoba47 I have responded to some of your comments on where the article still needs improving; good work here, though. --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: I have revised the article per a majority of your points. I prefer to keep the citations for the sentences pointed out above to keep the referencing as transparent as possible. I see no value in removing these citations. I am keeping the links for each of the citations, as it is the style that I prefer and a method I have been using on various featured articles in the past. I am still uncertain what you mean about the speech marks part as I have never seen double quotation marks used for quotes like that. Also the singer and album do need to be linked the first they are mentioned in the body of the article. I am not sure where you got the impression otherwise, but you are incorrect with that. Just wanted to briefly summarize my responses down here for you. Thank you again for the help and taking the time to do the review. I hope you are staying healthy and safe with everything going on in the world, and have a great rest of your week. Aoba47 (talk) 00:26, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Aoba47: Thank you and hope you enjoy things too, I have done minor copy editing and also the speech marks part; if you are referring to when I told you to add ", that's because the other ones were incorrectly formatted for Wiki and the bit where I told you to remove quotes within quotes on refs means when you have filled in a ref and added speech marks in it which is a violation of that rule since the refs are automatically in quotation marks. --Kyle Peake (talk) 10:56, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. Is there anything else that needs to be addressed? Aoba47 (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Aoba47: Some of the refs still have the speech marks issues --Kyle Peake (talk) 20:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: I believe that I have fixed the remaining quotation marks in the citations. Aoba47 (talk) 20:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

✓ Pass, nice one! --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:41, 28 June 2020 (UTC)