Talk:Prosopis juliflora

Latest comment: 6 days ago by MtBotany in topic Common names

Are there any diseases that attack Prosopis juliflora?It is a major weed and I am trying to stop it from using up groundwater in India. All forms of help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, --Karthick Ashwath (talk) 17:54, 28 May 2015 (UTC).Reply

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Carob? Bread?

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Under "Uses", we find the following sentence: "Prior to Spanish colonization, the Guaraní people of South America brewed a beer from mashed Carob pods and wild honey.[11]" What exactly does this have to do with the plant under discussion? We find under "Vernacular names" no indication of this plant ever being called a carob. The sentence is either a stray that doesn't belong, or it is in need of much clarification. Next we find the sentence "They can be dried and ground into flour to make bread.[9]" "They"? What is being referred to here? The seed pods? If so, that sentence should be in the previous paragraph where uses of the pods are being described, not following a comment on flavenoids in the heartwood. Someone with at least a passing familiarity with the plant and these specifics needs to do some repair here. 2001:56A:F0E9:9B00:3414:1666:E4CB:6B1F (talk) 23:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)JustSomeWikiReaderReply

Taxonomic revision and name change of Prosopis juliflora

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A recent, detailed study of taxonomy of Prosopis juliflora, suggests that this species should *not* be in Prosopis genus. It proposes that the name Neltuma juliflora is reinstated. See: https://doi.org/10.3897/phytokeys.205.75379

This suggests that the Nomenclature section requires revision and possibly even a redirect of the main page to Neltuma juliflora, if/when the taxonomic backbone is updated. Shankar Raman (talk) 03:05, 10 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Common names

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@Grandia01 I found a more easily accessible version of the text and found multiple problems with the citation in the hat note. Starting with the fact that it is incorrectly titled. Google mashed a bunch of texts together as Forest Growth and Sheep Grazing in the Cascade Mountains of Oregon, but the actual title is Nomenclature of the arborescent flora of the United States. The link was also to page 408 in the index. Going to the actual entry on page 252 it is given as a name locally used for the tree in Texas and New Mexico. Other names recorded in those states at the time were Mesquit, Algaroba, honey pod, and ironwood. So, not only is the book old, but it is listing this as one regional name that was used alongside many others. For these reasons, unless you have a more recent source showing current use of honey locust as a common name, it should not have a hat note because it will cause more confusion than help for readers. I put the information from the book into the section on vernacular names, a more appropriate place for it that does not give undue weight. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 13:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@talkthank you for the clarification and your efforts, and i apologize for the mistake. Grandia01 (talk) 04:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Grandia01, not a big problem. I should have explained my reasoning better in my note the first time, I understand why you thought it was an inappropriate deletion. And it prompted me to do some work, so that's all to the good. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply