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@Kingsif: After the recent discussions on WP:VENRS, I thought we could continue the conversation here. We can ask the current members regarding their position on the issue, as well as update the entries. I'm concerned that there hasn't been much activity lately and some of the users are currently inactive, but it might be a good opportunity to restart coordination in the Wikiproject. Let me know if you wish to think about the phrasing of the RfC before proceeding. Regards! --NoonIcarus (talk) 13:35, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
At the time I updated said list, starting a section for inactive members (users that have not edited in any topic for over a year). I'll ping the remaining active members to answer to this @Alex Coiro, AVM, Decltype, Monni95, Wilfredor, AntonioMartin, Oscar ., Dainshku, Yv1hx, OliverDF, NoonIcarus, BiggestSataniaFangirl89, Vami IV, Naturista2018, Kingsif, TheCanadianAndNewYorker, ReyHahn, Cyfraw, Viva Nicolás, Bradford, Hasley, CoryGlee, Alexismata7, Drkatiebrown, Dunutubble, and Shari Garland: While there might not be a definitive question at hand currently and there can be an open overall discussion, I think it's safe to start asking the following: Regarding the current list of reliable sources of the WikiProject (WP:VENRS), is there any entry that needs to be added, modified, removed or else? I'm open to any feedback; best wishes! --NoonIcarus (talk) 21:58, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Commenting to say, "message received", but I have nothing further to add. If you think you can get the ball rolling on coordinating this project, though, I'll be glad to assist. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 02:16, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Feedback - the list of reputable sources is helpful. Shari Garland (talk) 03:10, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- I am a bit distant from the Venezuelan topics at the moment but I would be glad to give my feedback in any discussion relating the project. --ReyHahn (talk) 09:58, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- None of the contentious material should even be added to Wikipedia. Non-contentious material might need two or three unrelated sources before it can be considered verifiable. It doesn't even matter if one of the sources listed as reputable publishes something if no other source publishes same information independently. Monni (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- What are these "arguments"!?
None of the contentious material should even be added to Wikipedia.- are you really trying to claim that nothing at all that can be disputed should be included on Wikipedia? Oh boy, do I have some articles for you to PROD then.
Non-contentious material might need two or three unrelated sources before it can be considered verifiable. It doesn't even matter if one of the sources listed as reputable publishes something if no other source publishes same information independently.- so absolutely everything, completely non-contentious, reported by an amazing source, needs another good source, completely separately to the first, to also report the information for it to be permitted in your world?
Geez, we take sourcing seriously at Wikipedia but your standards are far too exclusionary. Barely anything would ever be written about if those were actual rules. Kingsif (talk) 01:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- What are these "arguments"!?
User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)
and turns it into something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.