Talk:Progressive enhancement

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Seeaver in topic Escalator metaphor

Clean in which way? edit

I wonder if this article needs for be cleaned or cleared instead. Alcalazar 10:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

References edit

I've begun removing the inline external links and replacing them with Footnoted references. Some of the ones I've done, I now realize, are duplicated by the list that was at the bottom of the article. We need to continue working on those to merge the lists and save all the reference info that's worth keeping. I've run out of time tonight. Maybe I can do more later. Please help if you have time. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 02:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

References edit

What is with the unreferenced links in the "References" section? I don't believe they are used in the article, and if they are, they need to be properly cited with <ref> tags. -- FatalError 23:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Examples edit

If Progressive enhancement is so important, how come I am really struggling to find a real World site that utilises it? Note the bit in the article ' Progressive enhancement uses web technologies in a layered fashion that allows everyone to access the basic content and functionality of a web page, using any browser or Internet connection, while also providing an enhanced version of the page to those with more advanced browser software or greater bandwidth.'. Examples MUST work on Lynx and the original Mosaic and AMosaic. ZhuLien 116.240.194.132 (talk) 03:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

New UK government digital services are being designed in line with the GDS Service Design Manual which advocates progressive enhancement.--Pstansbu (talk) 13:00, 5 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you. The Transhumanist 01:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Escalator metaphor edit

@Anton.bersh: You removed "The compatibility of progressive enhancement has been metaphorically compared to an escalator in comparison to an elevator, since only the former remains usable (as stairs) in the event of a mechanical failure.".

Would you mind explaining why you do not think it is a suitable metaphor? Seeaver (talk) 02:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'm assuming you are talking about this edit. There are a few issues with this statement:
  1. Like all articles in an encyclopedia, Wikipedia articles should be informative and neutral. Similes are typically used to reduce cognitive load on the reader ("dumb it down"), and not to argumentatively explain a point. Unfortunately, literary devices like metaphors and similes are typically ambiguous and provide only half-truths. For example, turned-off elevators have incorrect stair proportions and are therefore less convenient than regular stairs. Does this imply that progressively-enhanced websites are worse? The whole article reads more like a personal essay and has some issues with point-of-view content in general, but this is the worst one.
  2. The provided source is a personal self-published blog which are typically not considered reliable. Again, this source is used elsewhere to support other content, but I did not remove that content because I believe I could find sources to support it.
Also, this statement is more a simile than a metaphor. Anton.bersh (talk) 22:11, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I meant this edit. Nevertheless, thanks much for your thorough response. Seeaver (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Side note: "turned-off elevators have incorrect stair proportions" – I think you meant "escalators" here. Seeaver (talk) 22:28, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply