Talk:Pornogrind

Sounds like Goregrind to me

A descendent of Grindcore and Death Metal is Goregrind. Goregrind subjects are sometimes sexual in nature, just like "pornogrind".

Also, no references are sighted in this article.

This is pretty widely accepted as a subgenre of grindcore. It is, of course, closely related to goregrind. Myrkkyhammas (talk) 16:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, this should be merged to the goregrind or grindcore article. Gothbag (talk) 20:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

It shouldn't be merged to goregrind as at least two sources (Purcell and Zero Tolerance) explicitly distinguish the two. It could in theory be merged to grindcore (if the sourced information is not lost), but that would require a fully referenced "subgenres" section, which people have historically been against. Deathgrind is currently looking better than it was (and I intend to add further sources for Terrorizer when I get round to it) and goregrind currently looks fine as a stub. Terrorizer recently did separate two-page articles on crustgrind and electrogrind, suggesting articles could be created for them as well. Incidentally, I requested the Decibel article concerning pornogrind on the grindcore talk page, in order to better source this article; so far no-one has got back to me. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Pornogrind should be a section in the Grindcore page, because the only differentiation is lyrical content (which is typically not audible in grindcore anyway), not play style or technique.24.85.113.197 (talk) 01:16, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Relation to deathgrind

This is mentioned in the article: "The genre, along with deathgrind, is related to the goregrind subgenre,"

What does Zero Tolerance magazine say about deathgrind and its relation to porno- or goregrind? How are these genres related? --Kameejl ^(Talk) 10:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, the relationship is that all three genres fuse grindcore and goregrind to some extent; the presence of so many bands on both the deathgrind and goregrind lists (all of which are sourced in reliable sources) confirms this. The same conclusion is reached in Purcell's book. The Zero Tolerance article is about grind offshoots, starting with goregrind, deathgrind and pornogrind (it specifically states "Related genres [to goregrind] are deathgrind, which sees grindcore and brutal death metal colliding head on (Brodequin, Dead Infection, Pigsty, Alienation Mental), and pornogrind, the most downright perverted of the lot, often adding a dollop of filthy groove and vocals straight from the toilet (Gut, CBT)". The article goes on to also talk about the likes of Pig Destroyer and "electronic grind", but clearly links the first three as related. Terrorizer has also published articles on deathgrind, goregrind and electrogrind over the years, and these could be good sources. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Cannibal Corpse

You want to add them, find a reliable source. The "tombofthemutilated" source fails WP:RS by a country mile. If you add it, it will be removed. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 12:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Cannibal Corpse aren't pornogrind and obviously shouldn't be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.219.249 (talk) 10:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Grindcore

This micro-article should be turned into a subsection of the grindcore page.--Malconfort (talk) 23:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree, I don't think this is notable enough to be its own article, but it is notable enough to exist as part of either Grindcore or Goregrind (I don't really care which, either seems like a reasonable place to go). MrMoustacheMM (talk) 16:51, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Goregrind can be a subsection of grindcore too.--Malconfort (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Merge

This needs to be merged with Grindcore. Probably will be. CombatMarshmallow (talk) 17:39, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

porngrind

Earliest know pioneers Meatshits out of Modesto California. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.222.186 (talk) 16:13, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

We need reliable sources to cite if this information is to be added to the article. General Ization ^Talk 16:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

There were bands playing derivatives of death metal and/or grindcore with porn influences before GUT existed; this is a fact. Meat Shits was one of them.73.181.3.206 (talk) 22:47, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Recent article from Vice Media

• Newhauser, Daniel (August 5, 2019). "Dayton Shooter Was in a "Pornogrind" Band That Released Songs About Raping and Killing Women". Vice Media.

PvOberstein (talk) 12:17, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

is lyrical content enought to be a new genre?

it is basically grindcore with porn content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:85A3:4783:346F:9C6:4ECB:57C (talk) 07:00, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

No, it is not "basically grindcore with porn content"; it is succinct and completely distinguishable from grindcore. You wouldn't compare the early sound of Napalm Death to Spermswamp, would you? 73.181.3.206 (talk) 21:11, 11 April 2020 (UTC)