Talk:North Star (Star Trek: Enterprise)

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March 11, 2013Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Star Trek: Enterprise episode "North Star" was filmed on the Western sets at Universal Studios, including one used in the 1940 film My Little Chickadee?

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 01:06, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

  • Confusing: " they overthrew the aliens and their descendants now treat them as second class citizens."
  • Modified that, I see what you mean, sounds like the alien descendents treat the humans as second class citizens. Miyagawa (talk) 12:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • The lead and plot don't make it clear: The humans were abducted from Earth, right? And they were abducted in 1860 or so?
  • Made a small change to the lead and plot to specify both of those points. Miyagawa (talk) 12:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • The guest actors need a citation.
  • I didn't add one as each of the actors were included in the second paragraph of the production section. The infobox used to have four or five more, but those were mostly stunt actors and I couldn't find a citation for them to say they were in this episode specifically (so I removed them). Miyagawa (talk) 12:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • Vague sentence: " executive producer Rick Berman set him the challenge of writing a "parallel Earth" story similar to those featured in TOS but would fit with Enterprise." -- First, what is a "parallel Earth" story, what kinds of this story appeared in TOS and how would they "fit" differently in this series versus that one?
  • " Gene Roddenberry's original pitch to NBC for Star Trek was a "wagon train to the stars"." -- Was the western theme a homage to this detail? I'm having a hard time figuring out why this detail is where it is.
  • I'll cover the above two points together - I'll dig up the original Star Trek pitch by Roddenberry to NBC which explains this along with the "parallel Earth" thing - Roddenberry had an idea at the time which was expressed in some detail in the original pitch which involved humans from other eras living on other planets. I can't even remember if he even explained a mechanic in order to facilitate this. But for example, with The Original Series, you had the episode where there was a planet full of Romans, then one with Nazis, and Cowboys etc. Wasn't really done after that series, and to be honest, Stargate SG1 took the idea and ran off with it completely. Miyagawa (talk) 12:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • Ok, removed the wagon train reference and added a new one to explain the parallel Earth point from the original pitch. Miyagawa (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • Duplicate links tool shows six links which need fixing.
  • Once I've added the bit to explain the parallel Earth query above I'll run the checker again and fix this. Otherwise, I'm bound to only add more. Miyagawa (talk) 12:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • External links tool checks out. There are no disambiguation links.
  • I see no problems with article stability and neutrality. All images appear to be suitably licensed.
Placing the article on hold to wait for improvements. —Ed!(talk) 01:22, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Great work! Passing the article for GA. —Ed!(talk) 11:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

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The Trekweb article about the Ratings for this article is dead, permanently dead. The article was titled "Final Ratings: Household Remains Steady But Audience Gains Elusive for "North Star"" and existed at the URL http://trekweb.com/stories.php?aid=3f620cc5f2335 and also at http://trekweb.com/articles/2003/11/14/3fb4ff0ca7b59.shtml neither of which happened to be archived in the Wayback machine.
Archive.today appears to have a copy of the page http://archive.today/2013.04.12-003819/http://trekweb.com/stories.php?aid=3fb4ff0ca7b59 but in fact they have only captured a dead page with no text. -- 109.79.169.104 (talk) 02:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Ain't It Cool News said he enjoyed North star and called it an "intriguing cowboys-and-aliens extravaganza".[1] That was in his review for "Similitude" but as far as I can tell there was no separate standalone review for 3.9. There were reviews for episodes 3.8, 3.10 no Enterprise reviews until 2.23. That the show wasn't being written about regularly even in a publication as nerdy as AICN also tells you something. -- 109.76.133.190 (talk) 16:15, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Found a free audio commentary for this episode, originally from the official Star Trek website[2] but TrekCore saved it from the memory hole and in 2014 made a copy of the podcast available for download in MP3 format.[3][4] The commentary podcast featured writer David A. Goodman with editor of StarTrek.com Tim Gaskill. (A similar commentary from Goodman and writer Chris Black was included with the season 3 Bluray release.) -- 109.76.132.93 (talk) 01:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)Reply