Talk:Nerodimë e Poshtme
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editThe common name for this locality should be forwarded to a discussion, and not just changed arbitrarily as it was changed.--Atdheu (talk) 02:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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editCut & paste moves are a Bad Thing, and a change of name is obviously not without controversy. If anybody would like to move this page, I recommend discussing it first. bobrayner (talk) 02:43, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
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editI updated the prose to cut out some small errors in sytax and removed the copy edit template Xcia0069 (talk) 13:15, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 4 November 2018
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: not moved (page mover nac) Flooded with them hundreds 16:10, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Nerodimë e Poshtme → Donje Nerodimlje – Based on the WP:COMMONNAME, I propose this be moved to "Donje Nerodimlje". Google books search shows 84 hits for "Donje Nerodimlje"[1], 17 hits for "Nerodime e Poshtme"[2], and only one hit for "Nerodimë e Poshtme"[3], even that one being in Albanian language. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:03, 4 November 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran(talk) 18:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Per nominator and arguments presented in the discussion on this talkpage.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:03, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. I had a look around on this and the proper form in the Albanian language is Nerodime e Poshtme ([4] p.19; [5] p.5 documents/reports from the Ferizaj municipality or Kosovo Government) in its indefinite article form and in its definite article form Nerodimja e Poshtme. The form Nerodima e Poshtme also exists. In this toponym there is no schwa > ë for the indefinate form. If there is to be a name change it ought to be to Nerodime e Poshtme (google books [6] 165 hits) without the schwa which is as per WP:COMMONNAME.Resnjari (talk) 21:54, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Google search without quotation marks is useless in this case. As I already pointed out above, Google Books search for "Nerodime e Poshtme" returns 18 hits. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- How is it useless when the result clearly shows the term Nerodime e Poshtme used in within litreture? I thought the aim here was to show its usage, not omit actual uses of the toponym in that form and not skew something toward a result that does not take in the whole context. wp:google points out problems with searches either way and it does not always have to have one done with "", it is only preferable to do it that way if there are many other terms that are the same. As far as one can see there is only Nerodime e Poshtme and no other.Resnjari (talk) 23:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Resnjari: First of all, the Google Books search performed without quotation marks (like you did) returns 93 hits ([7]), and not 165 as you claim. Secondly, it contains many results that do not mention this village at all, you can check it yourself. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Ok so you went to the end of the search results and it gave a different result. Even in the revised example Nerodime e Poshtme still is 93 hits to Donje Nerodimlje at 84 hits. Anyway my point exactly then about the search results giving off different numbers (or none at all) with or without quotation marks (""). In the end how many texts etc are using either form? Google Ngram also was disappointing in this regard with either the Serb or the Albanian form as to which toponym form is becoming more common. It gave no results and you can try it yourself.Resnjari (talk) 23:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Resnjari: First of all, the Google Books search performed without quotation marks (like you did) returns 93 hits ([7]), and not 165 as you claim. Secondly, it contains many results that do not mention this village at all, you can check it yourself. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- How is it useless when the result clearly shows the term Nerodime e Poshtme used in within litreture? I thought the aim here was to show its usage, not omit actual uses of the toponym in that form and not skew something toward a result that does not take in the whole context. wp:google points out problems with searches either way and it does not always have to have one done with "", it is only preferable to do it that way if there are many other terms that are the same. As far as one can see there is only Nerodime e Poshtme and no other.Resnjari (talk) 23:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, per Resnjari.--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 19:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, per יניב הורון (Yaniv).--Udha (talk) 17:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.