Talk:Missouri Compromise

Latest comment: 10 months ago by Paulmlieberman in topic Mason-Dixon Line: Citable Source Sought

Fouled up date edit

First sentence: "In the 197678878800s the nation hit a huge westward expansion..." It seems this date has been fouled up. Is someone able to correct it? 68.224.107.200 (talk) 09:51, 25 April 2012 (UTC) Amy 4/25/12Reply

rough article edit

There are actually a few problems with the writing of this article - particularly in the first few paragraphs. It's a really rough read as far as the grammar & how the info is presented. Unfortunately when I see something written as awkwardly as that it always makes me question whether there are any errors in the facts as well. If I knew more about the subject I'd try to help w/ it, but I wouldn't want to unknowingly adjust something in some way that adversely affected the facts of the article. 68.224.107.200 (talk) 10:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC) Amy 4/25/12Reply

This resulted from edits on April 24 apparently by over-enthusiastic students not too well informed about Wikipedia; I reverted to the article version as opf April 23... AnonMoos (talk) 14:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
agreed. it's really bad and is based on a one-page oneline "source" --the kids did not spend much tine reading up on the subject. Rjensen (talk) 16:42, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Reverted or not, it is still VERY rough, to wit:

""This deliberately ambiguous provision is sometimes known as the Second Missouri Compromise. most negros dissapoved the pass saying it was under the line a reporter later reported fom a egro named Aj " if its under it under and let it be and sae tom robinson" ""

(Are we to assume that the way it is written, it just needs (sic) prefixed to the text? Or what???)

The article's topic is quite important to the understanding of this period in the history of America. As such, it should be accorded some advanced priority in accomplishing an accurate final version. 68.111.65.233 (talk) 17:27, 19 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

This article is a frequent vandalism magnet; it's OK as of right now. You could ask for article "semi-protection" status at Wikipedia:Requests for protection... AnonMoos (talk) 22:45, 19 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Agreed that this still reads very poorly. Not going to change any facts, just tightening up grammar and punctuation in the first paragraph Felosele (talk) 20:26, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Major re-edit for MoCo lede edit

The Missouri Compromise spanned two Congressional sessions (15th & 16th), and the controversy encompassed more than a few issues. I've tried to touch on this matters in the lede.

Historian Sean Wilentz emphasizes the role of the Jeffersonian Republicans, North and South, during the debates, rather than the disbanded Federalists. I've relied on his historical understanding of the events; his themes comport with the other sources in the Ref list, for the most part. 36hourblock (talk) 19:30, 5 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Captions? WTF? edit

The captions are all very long, as a recent editor has noted. We should trim them significantly. If the content is that important it belongs in the article body. DMorpheus2 (talk) 21:29, 4 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Consistent ref formats edit

This is a good article, its only flaw being inconsistent reference styles. I put Bibliography and Further Reading into Citation format. Some inline references have long quotations from the source; might those long quotations belong in the text of the article? Some sources in Further Reading are cited in the article. In my not-perfect experience, that should be moved into the Bibliography. Further Reading is just that: sources not used in the writing of the article. With the lists in Citation format, and many inline references done as short refs (author last name, year, page #) , this could use the Harvnb referencing format, so that a short ref links to the full citation in th Bibliography. A few short refs do link, but using a system unfamiliar to me. That is one of the inconsistencies in the references. I have learned not to add Harvnb or one of its close Wikipedia format cousins unless the editors of the article agree to the change. Prairieplant (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Confusing Terminology: "Republicans" edit

Several references to "Jeffersonian Republicans" or simply "Republicans", as such are grossly misleading, conflating two different unrelated political parties into a single term. What's intended here must be "Democratic-Republicans", Jefferson's party which is obviously not the same as the (current) Republican Party which didn't exist until 1854. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.34.131.212 (talk) 16:02, 2 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Mason-Dixon Line? edit

Just curious that the Mason-Dixon line article mentions the fact the term came into regular use around the Missouri Compromise, yet this article has zero mention of it. Also the mention of 36°30' doesn't link to anything. Shouldn't this be included here somewhere?? --gobears87 (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Removal of first paragraph - Kaminokuni edit

Kaminokuni. Hi there - why are you removing the first paragraph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobEret (talkcontribs) 17:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Mason-Dixon Line: Citable Source Sought edit

Hi. I frequently edit the article on the Mason-Dixon Line, in which it is stated that the use of the term as we now know it goes back to the debate in Congress over the Missouri Compromise. If you google it, you'll find many websites that state this as fact. For example, the website for the town of Rising Sun, Maryland says: "In popular usage, especially since the Missouri compromise of 1820 (apparently the first official usage of the term "Mason's and Dixon's Line"), the Mason-Dixon Line symbolizes a cultural boundary between the Northern United States and the Southern United States." But, our article has no citation for the line being explicitly named during the congressional debate on the compromise. If any of you who edit this article have access to authoritative books on the subject, could you please look for the term, and give me the citation so I can use it in that article, or tell me that there is no reference to Mason & Dixon's Line in the reported debates? Paulmlieberman (talk) 13:27, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply