Talk:Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers

Merge w/ MMPR

I would like to suggest that the Mighty Morphin' Alien Rangers article be merged with the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers section. This is due to the fact that MMAR is nothing more than a mini-series within Season 3 of MMPR. "Green With Evil" was not given a seperate section and it is a mini-series as well from Season 1. Furthermore, the only reason that this is even in question is because the series slightly modified the opening sequence to the show (within the continuity of Season 3) to accommodate the new Alien Ranger characters, who were, once again, additions within the continuity of Season 3. For a reference as to the validity of this claim, please visit Power Rangers Central. I just feel that combining the two would enhance the integrity of Wikipedia as a source for accurate Power Rangers info. Thanks.--RabidPanda V 23:21, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

That would be a good idea, however the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers article is long as it is. "Green With Evil" does have its own page as it is a fairly notable story arc in MMPR; it was not a mini-series. Although MMAR is a mini-series, its storyline was significantly different from that of MMPR, which had a new casting of several (almost all) of the characters in MMPR. Ryūlóng 23:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Though you have a very good and valid point, many aspects could easily be integrated into the primary MMPR article. Granted it is long, but it isn't the first time an information-rich topic ran a little too long. Of course, this is no easy task for me because although I have been a reader on Wikipedia for a long time, I am a new member and am still not comfortable with the markup and such. Also, even Disney aknowleges that MMAR is not a standalone series. They even billed the Season 3 finale as "Hogday Afternoon, Part 2." MMAR gets almost no recognition outside of the opening credits. I don't mean to be a pain, but the major arguement of the regular cast being absent is not entirely accurate either. The primary antagonists remain the same, as do Zordon and Alpha. Billy is restored to his normal age and, to further the continuity, the Zords remain relatively the same minus the Battle Borgs. The Zord continuity alone marks the duration of any and all PR seasons. I'm really sorry if I'm seeming annoying, stubborn,or petty, but this has been bugging me for the longest time because I feel it is just inaccurate.--RabidPanda V 21:30, 6 August 2006 (EST)

However, Disney did not produce Alien Rangers; Saban did. Even though it was billed as a mini-series that was part of the third season of MMPR, it was distinct in many ways that give it its own significance in the Power Rangers canonical timeline and fandom/fanon. The distinct differences in casts, opening sequence, title, and Ranger team give it distinct status and make it a distinct page per Wikipedia's guidelines on notability of articles about fiction. And I thought that Hogday Afternoon was the Alien Rangers/Zeo Rangers team up episodes, a distinct episode/arc in the entire series. Ryūlóng 01:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

You pose a very good point. "Hogday Afternoon" was the two-part episode in which Aisha finished her Zeo quest and the Command Center was ultimately imploded, effectively concluding the MMPR seasons, providing the cliff hanger that paved the way for the Zeo season so Saban could finally stop using the Zyuranger costumes, increasing the amount of footage available to dub. By the way, I saw your user page and I was very impressed. I have a lot of respect for your credentials and work ethic and I do enjoy much of your work. RabidPanda V 01:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. And I was a little confused about the "Hogday Afternoon" episodes. There an episode/arc in Zeo that Saban used footage from Ohranger vs Kakuranger that was a team-up between Alien Rangers and Zeo. However, there are still the distinct differences between MMPR and MMAR that signify the need for two separate articles (although, information on the Battle Borgs is included in Zords in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers seeing as there is no real need for an article just on the Battle Borgs, when that can be included in the MMAR article and MMPR Zord article/list). Ryūlóng 01:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

As for the Ohranger vs Kakuranger footage... that was a two part episode that I believe was entitled "Rangers of Both (or Two) Worlds." I'm almost positive that it is the one that was the sendoff for David Yost after his departure with the rapid-aging storyline. Do you manage any of the PR Wikis outside of MMPR and MMAR? I have some almost fully verifiable theories that may be useful in some of the Wikis to subsequent seasons if you do. I'd be glad to share them. RabidPanda V 02:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

There are PR wikis? Ryūlóng 02:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, you mean the pages on Power Rangers on Wikipedia? If so, I do. Ryūlóng 02:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, my terminology was a little off. Yes, PR pages on Wikipedia is what I meant. If I find any PR Wikis, I'll make sure you are the first to know. RabidPanda V 02:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

That's okay. And on the theories, they might be original research, which isn't allowed on Wikipedia. Ryūlóng 02:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed Controversy

Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers is considered by some to be a full-fledged season unto itself, as it had its own opening credits sequence, theme song, logo and toy line.

On the other hand, Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers is also considered a miniseries by some. This is a result of the stars of the parent series (MMPR) being removed from action and the show introducing new villains, allies and zords. MMAR is still the third season of MMPR because it's about the Power Rangers being sidelined from action and calling upon another set of Rangers to help them.

The first paragraph has some merit, but the second is redundant. Obviously it is considered a mini series by some if that's what it is. (Fan debates be damned, it's a part of the third season of MMPR). Most of the information is found in the intro paragraph. And this isn't so much a controvery, but rather a POV. This isn't an issue of debate, but rather a preference of choice. Some people believe this to be a series, this is true, but their belief in it being such doesn't make it so. There isn't a controvery... some people believe it to be something... that's about it. Zero X Marquis 08:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, I find that this is a topic of debate in the PR community. POV has a hand in this as well, but doesn't all debate stem from POV? Take current events for example. Difference of opinion is normally a direct result of varied point of view. Both vantage points are equally valid and draw their own fair share of consideration. Some of the most reputable PR resources do not aknowlege MMAR as its own entity, while others choose to ingnore it. Either way, both sides must me aknowleged. One last thing, "damning" fan debates isn't really a respectable or polite thing to do as some very valid realities can be realized through such a medium. Redundancy is not in question... the controversy section is intended to point out that there is a considerable lack of consensus as to MMAR's designation. The controversy section should remain and should reaffirm the sentiment described at the opening of the article, including an explanation, as well as the counter point. This keeps objectivity and engages the reader to form their own view rather than be biased and only present one side. RabidPanda V 14:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

But, its a POV without validity. There is no bias in having one point of view, if it is the truth. Whether or not the most reputable sources claim one thing or another does not change the factual information. You can have controversy around something that has not been explicitly stated... unresolved plotlines, character development... things that can be interpreted. This however, is one way. The answer is that its a mini-series, some choose not to believe it as such and classify it as a series, but that doesn't change that it isn't a series. Even worse, when you take out the redundent claims, it boils down to trickle one point section, which could very easily find a place in another section. This does not keep the objectivty of the article as it further removes the reader from the facts. Leaving it as helps promote some asinine idea that this could actually be a series... which it isn't, which means no controversy. It should be mentioned that there are those that debate the issue and think its a miniseries, but not to the credit that its of controversy. I'm going to stand by this, and revert it back, and I understand that you'll more than likely do the same.Zero X Marquis 16:36, 7 August 2006 (UTC) Sorry one last thing: The biggest problem is that it can't be considered one thing to one group, and another to another. It has to be ONE of the two (in this case). You're putting too much merit in what fans have to say. You have to, for factual purposes, say it is one or the other (which if I'm not mistaken, is a miniseries, show me something verifiable and I'll let it go.) Zero X Marquis 16:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree that MMAR is a miniseries and not a standalone series at all. That is why I want to merge MMAR with MMPR. The two should not be considered two seperate entities since MMAR is just a reference to 10 episodes within Season 3. In the above topic, I debated this with the original author of the page. I just feel that since he felt the aknowlegement necessary that we should respect his wishes unless he decides to unify the two articles. One other thing... can we try to keep a more professional tone... words like asinine are not conducive to productive discussion. RabidPanda V 16:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I've never seen a problem with the word asinine, but if you wish, sure, I won't use it. Now, this represents the biggest problem with wikipedia. Its supposed to be a site where people come together to get closer to the truth. Yes, someone writes the foundation, but from there others come in a tweak it to get closer to the truth. The original author has no ownership over it, and we need not respect his wishes, especially if his wishes take away from the truth (at the very least, the way the controversy section was written placed merit in the idea that both positions were equal... actually put more weight in the series idea as it comes first [positioning does have an effect]). As for merging the two, I agree, they should be, but that's another issue in and of itself Zero X Marquis 16:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

(NOT APPLICABLE) Logo fix in January 2011

A while back, I added this into the Replaceability section of the image:

"However, because the 145 episodes of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers are being aired on http://www.powerrangers.com, a fixed-quality version to fix the fuzziness near the bottom of the image can eventually be provided in January 2011."

Just make sure that's done, as the website does not keep previous episodes after their web broadcast date.

--Addict 2006 16:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay never mind. At the time, I thought the Alien Rangers series was a subseries to MMPR season 3. It's still those 145 days anyway. --Addict 2006 01:27, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

The 'Notes' section

I do not think it is needed as no information has been added. --HIAW! 22:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Logo

That logo would be a decent recreation, except the text is in the wrong font. :( Digifiend (talk) 01:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Formal request has been received to merge the article Aquitian Rangers into Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers; dated: December 2017. Proposer's Rationale: The former article is unsourced, mostly plot, and whatever useful information about the Rangers are already in the main TV series article. Discuss here. Richard3120 (talk) 21:14, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

That makes sense to me. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:47, 8 January 2018 (UTC)