Talk:The McManus
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Ironically
editI am not sure that it works to say 'Ironically, following a later refurbishment the building now commemorates the Lord Provost Maurice McManus.' The article does not make clear why this is ironic. I know there is a view that an argument could be made that McManus was Lord Provost at a time when Dundee demolished many historic buildings, but there would need to be a reputable source cited to indicate this, it not an actual source describing the naming as being ironic. Even then I am not sure this belongs on Wikipedia. Dunarc (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 8 February 2021
editMcManus Gallery → The McManus: Dundee's Art Gallery & Museum – This official name appears to be the commonly used form, although "The McManus" or "The McManus: Dundee's Art Gallery and Museum" ("and" instead of "&") would also be possible article titles. I note that the article was moved from this proposed title to its current one in August 2019 with message "usual terminology" but that does not seem to be the case today. See ArtUK (which is what led me here), city council website, The McManus website, Visit Scotland, Tripadvisor etc. PamD 08:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. I usually work by what people would commonly call something to determine WP:COMMONNAME. And I really don't think peope would say: "I'm visiting The McManus: Dundee's Art Gallery & Museum today"! The McManus, maybe, but not the full title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, The McManus is probably the better title - I think the fact that all four sources I used above used the full form is why I proposed it. But looking at this, I'm increasingly sure that "The McManus" is the right article title, with redirects from everything else. PamD 13:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- I withdraw this move request in favour of the one below. PamD 13:54, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, The McManus is probably the better title - I think the fact that all four sources I used above used the full form is why I proposed it. But looking at this, I'm increasingly sure that "The McManus" is the right article title, with redirects from everything else. PamD 13:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 8 February 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Weak consensus to move to The McManus. No such user (talk) 14:49, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
McManus Gallery → The McManus – Reconsidering the previous move request, to offer a more reader-friendly form of the name, as used in running text as in this from its own website. The short version of the official name appears to be commonly used form, although "The McManus: Dundee's Art Gallery & Museum" or "The McManus: Dundee's Art Gallery and Museum" ("and" instead of "&") would also be possible article titles. I note that the article was moved from the full official title to its current one in August 2019 with message "usual terminology" but that does not seem to be the case today. See ArtUK (which is what led me here), city council website, The McManus website, Visit Scotland, Tripadvisor etc. I agree with User:Necrothesp above that the short form is likely to be the commonly-used one, and therefore our title of choice. PamD 13:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Certainly does appear to be the common name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Victoria Jubilee Gardens
editWilliam Alexander designed the gardens, per here, but I don't see them mentioned in the article. I will try to add them at some point. Seasider53 (talk) 11:20, 2 October 2021 (UTC)