Talk:Math fab Mathonwy

Lleu mortality

According to the translation I've read, it's not a buck that Lleu has to stand on to become mortal, but a goat. Since I don't speak any Welsh and have never read the original, I can't be sure which is more accurate...

Got me, I just summarized the story from the source. howcheng {chat} 15:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Clarity needed.

This is rather confusing:

The magician Gwydion (Gilfaethwy's brother), devised a plan to make Goewin available. He told his uncle about an animal that was new to Wales, called pigs, and how he could get them from their owner, Pryderi of Dyfed. He took a band of men, including his brother, to Ceredigion, where they disguised themselves as bards to gain audience with King Pryderi.

I cannot seem to figure out who "he" is. Because it is said, "He told his uncle", I'm assuming it is either Gwydion or Gilfaethwy but there is no way to know for sure. I'm not familiar with this, so can someone please edit this for clarity? I also edited the name Gwydion. In this section there were several spellings which might be confusing for the reader. There should be one fluid spelling throughout the article and the different spellings should be addressed in the Gwydion article.

Gwydion's uncle is Math fab Mathonwy Sanddef 17:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Sanddef

Dylan

Arianrhod's first son, Dylan, does not "immediately die" as somebody for some reason wrote here. His death is mentioned in the tale but it is a reference to a later event. Sanddef

07:20, 15 January 2009‎

Surviving 3 years

Someone pointed out, although I don't remember who, that Math had been alive 3 years without a virgin footholder, i.e. during the time of his nephews' punishment, and only after that, they started searching for a new one. It was in the Penguin edition translation.

Ll1324 (talk) 20:03, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

More clarity needed

Blodeuwedd is made from flowers and therefore called 'flower-faced', but then she's turned into an owl and called 'flower-face' [sic] because of how the owl looks. Surely the other way around - the owl is named after her? Katiehawks (talk) 05:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)