Talk:Maryland Route 355

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I created this page because I felt that the portion of MD 355 beyond Washington DC and Wisconsin Ave was signifigant enough to merit inclusion on its own. Jay 14:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have no problem with it, I can't really remember why I created the redirect in the first place. My only guess is that it was to serve as a placeholder redirect that should be later replaced with an article, and now it has.-Jeff (talk) 20:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Most Commercial Road edit

I have heard that Rockville Pike was ranked as one of the most commerically active roads in the country, bringing in the most revenue of any other road in the US amongst the many businesses located on it. Can anyone verify this? 151.200.22.73 07:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)BenReply

MD 355 no longer starts at US 15 edit

About a year ago, the MD-355 N connection to US-15 (via Worman's Mill Rd. past the MD-26 intersection) was closed. In its place, a ramp was constructed that connected MD-26 W with US-15 N (there was already a ramp from MD-26 W to US-15 S). It is trivial to go from the road's new northern terminus (indicated by signage to be the intersection with MD-26) to US-15, with which it previously intersected, but the road itself no longer extends to US-15 N (though the Worman's Mill Rd. stretch still exists, it just does not connect with US-15). Though both roads run through Frederick, they do not at any point connect directly (with the aforementioned connection across MD-26 being the shortest link between the roads). I have changed the article to reflect this change; I know this because I live about a mile from the roads in question and use them all the time. However, a quick perusal of the State Highway Administration website yielded no useful affirmation of this change.—Kbolino 06:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

About a mile south of the MD-26 intersection, it is possible to take W 14th St. to Motter Ave./Opposumtown Pk. to US-15, which may in fact be a shorter connection between the two roads (but the two are very similar in actual driving distance between MD-355 and US-15, relative to the direction travelled)—Kbolino 07:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
No, if this change was recent, the HLR won't be updated right away. So I guess there's nothing that can be done right now, unless someone can find another way to verify this.-Jeff (talk) 11:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Merge? edit

Shouldn't this be merged with Wisconsin Avenue (Washington, D.C.), which discusses the same road (although more of it, since it includes the part in DC as well)? john k (talk) 02:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I disagree, as MD 355 encompasses names beyond just Wisconsin Avenue -- Rockville Pike, Frederick Road, Hungerford Drive, etc. --Bossi (talkgallerycontrib) 02:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
The Wisconsin Avenue article, however, talks about the whole length of the road. Furthermore, Rockville Pike, at least, redirects to the article on Wisconsin Avenue, not here. Perhaps there should be two separate articles, but their coverage shouldn't overlap like this. john k (talk) 17:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Reply
It's worth noting that, obviously, the part of Wisconsin Avenue in D.C. is not Maryland Route 355, just as the parts of Maryland Route 355 beyond Bethesda aren't called Wisconsin Avenue. But, nonetheless, it is all one road, and it makes sense to discuss the whole length from Georgetown to Frederick in one place, whatever the name issues. john k (talk) 17:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Specific points edit

Lead edit

  • "...where it continues south as Wisconsin Avenue into Washington, north to a dead end near U.S. Route 15..." How can something continue north and south? Not sure I'm understanding this.

Montgomery County edit

  • Split the first sentence into two.
  • "...areas of retail and high-rise buildings in Friendship Heights including The Shops at Wisconsin Place that is served by the Red Line of the Washington Metro." There's something wrong here. Should this read "...areas of retail and high-rise buildings in Friendship Heights, including The Shops at Wisconsin Place, that are served by the Red Line of the Washington Metro." ?
  • "...the road intersects the eastbound direction of Maryland Route 410..." How can an intersection be with only the eastbound direction of another road. Don't all roads run in two directions, or do you mean it is a T-intersection?
    • MD 410 is on a set of one-way streets at this point. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • OK, if I understand you correctly, you are saying MD355 intersects the MD410 eastbound one-way and not the westbound one-way here. If that's right, i suggest you revise to "...the road intersects Maryland Route 410 one-way eastbound..."
  • Is there a reference that says the cinema is in "near-original condition"?
  • Is there a reference that says that the church is "...an 1850 wood-frame church which gave Bethesda its name"?
  • Ditto for "...the Linden Oak, the largest white oak tree in the United States, at the Grosvenor Lane intersection". In particular, when I visited the WPpage Linden Oak, I noted it was unreferenced, but that one link in-text was to a source that suggests it is not the largest white oak.
    • I modified or removed the uncited information. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • I note a lot of attention is paid to speed limits on different sections, and to intersections, but not to changes in the lanes / quality / division of the road. Is this because it remains a 6-lane divided hwy until the end of Mont. County?
    • Lane/quality/division changes are mentioned where appropriate. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Frederick County edit

  • Maryland Route 355 Business - especially since this is a redlink, it needs an explanation. I have no idea what this is or means.
    • It is a designation for the former alignment of MD 355 in Urbana that was recently bypassed. I eventually plan to make a section in this article for the route when more information becomes available as it is too recent for most maps and official documents. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

History edit

  • When was the route first designated as MD355?
    • The exact date is unknown, so I indicated the earliest available map that shows the route. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • Can anything be added to explain or outline why it is that some parts are maintained by the state and some parts not?
    • The only part not maintained by the state is through downtown Frederick. The reason for this is unknown. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Other edit

  • Are there no traffic statistics available?
    • There are, in the HLR from the Maryland State Highway Administration. I previously included them in the article but was told that an excessive listing should not be included. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • An excessively detailed listing may not help, but indications of traffic volumes would seem to me to be one of the key pieces of information that would go with any article about a road. I would apply this comment to all your highway articles, FWIW. hamiltonstone (talk) 02:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • I added the highest and lowest traffic counts for each county. Dough4872 (talk) 03:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
  • No mention of pedestrian areas, special designated lanes (eg public transport lanes or multiple occupancy vehicle lanes) or cycleways - are there none?

I'll check in in coming days. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the review. I have made changes to the article and replied to the above comments. Dough4872 (talk) 02:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Questionable business route edit

Is the portion of old MD 355, Urbana Pike, that was bypassed actually a business route? Google Street View does not show any route markers along this road. You would think if there was an actual business route the just-released 2013 Highway Location Reference would call it that instead of MD 355C. Unless there is a source that shows the old road as MD 355 Business, I suggest the business route references be removed from this article.  V 04:46, 30 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Here is a shield [1] that marks MD 355C as MD 355 Business. Also not all business routes are inventoried as business routes, for example, MD 5 Business in Hughesville is inventoried as MD 625. Dough4872 05:42, 30 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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References edit

The November 2, 1913 issue of the Evening Star has a column by Howard Fisk about traveling on the "new Rockville pike". See https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1913-11-02/ed-1/seq-28/. Fabrickator (talk) 17:16, 27 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

I added this to the See also section of the article toiday. Enjoy! Fabrickator (talk) 02:53, 16 December 2022 (UTC)Reply