Talk:Maple Mountain High School (Utah)

Proposed merge with Nebo School District

School is not notable; should be merged into school district's article. valereee (talk) 16:26, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

• Support as not notable for a standalone article. →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 16:30, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Valereee, there have been no objections in nearly a year, you may want to consider being bold. Boleyn (talk) 18:27, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

@Boleyn: Hm...I think this might be the first time I've merged anything. Will have to go teach myself how!  :) valereee (talk) 11:34, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

@Boleyn: Okay, done...I think. Lotta steps, hope I didn't screw any of them up!  :) valereee (talk) 13:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Valereee and Boleyn, I've created a new page for Maple Mountain High School, as by Wikipedia policy all high schools and above are considered notable and should have their own page. You can see my draft here. I have submitted it for AfC. Thanks, MrCrazyDude (talk) 17:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, MrCrazyDude Well, I guess I'd argue a bit...what I'm seeing at WP:NHS is not that schools all should have their own articles but rather that the assumption is in favor of keeping when they're nominated for deletion. We didn't delete -- we merged into the school district site. My question is whether it's really useful to readers to have a separate article for this school when there's already an article about the school district which includes the high school adequately enough to address readers' needs, and there's nothing in particular about this school which demands separate coverage from the school district. The sources you've found are pretty sparse -- basically, lists of all high schools plus info from the district website -- which makes me think there's little out there that would warrant an unmerge. Pinging Davey2010 as he weighed in, too. valereee (talk) 18:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for the ping - Personally I think it's pointless to have a seperate article, Atleast to me it makes sense to just have everything in one article so I'm still saying support. –Davey2010^Talk 18:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi all, I'm a fairly new editor, and I'm working based on a comment after I asked this question. I'm talking about the comment by Cullen. Thanks, MrCrazyDude (talk) 18:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

MrCrazyDude, yeah, I do understand that discussion. I'd argue with them a little -- I don't think the WP:NHS goes so far as to say that all high schools need a separate article. I think it's saying that a separate article is find and dandy, no reason not to have one. I just think they're overstating it a little: the guidelines don't clearly say all high schools should have an article. They say that in general, such articles aren't deleted for lack of coverage in reliable sources. In this case the fact there's very little to say about this high school that isn't said in the district's article mean a separate article isn't necessary. That said, if you publish that article, it'll likely stay.  :) I don't have strong opposition here -- my personal concern in these cases tends to be 1. need and 2. maintenance. If we've got two separate articles for no particularly good reason, it means maintaining those two separate articles forever, because a lot of the information in both articles will become outdated eventually. If we balance that with the need for a separate article, which in this case I think is very low since there's not really much out there about MMHS, I come out on the side of one article instead of potentially, what, five or six? JMO. valereee (talk) 19:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Valereee, I have submitted but I understand what you're saying. I actually originally started this all because of the way the merger had been done, with the infobox content simply pasted straight into the article main. I changed the Nebo School District article to a prosaic format, but then was advised that individual articles may be better. Having heard from you, I shan't complete any more pages, and you're welcome to merge any extra content etc. and then delete the new article, when it comes through from AfC. Thanks, MrCrazyDude (talk) 19:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

MrCrazyDude, honestly, I'll probably just let it go.  :) I can't even remember what brought me to Nebo school district in the first place, probably just meandering around Wikipedia and noticed the article needed maintenance. If there are editors willing to maintain it and ones for its five high schools, yay!  :) And good for you for asking questions at Teahouse! I really love it when newish editors find their way there and ask intelligent questions. valereee (talk) 19:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC)