Talk:Lufthansa Flight 592

Further expansion

Here are some more sources to use in expanding the article further:

1. Bowles, Pete; Joseph W. Queen (February 11, 1993). "Hijacking was carefully planned, prosecutor says" (PDF). The Daily Gazette. Schenectady, NY. Newsday. p. D-1. Retrieved 2011-02-02.
2. Milton, Pat (February 11, 1993). "Innocent passenger wants apology" (PDF). The Daily Gazette. Schenectady, NY. Associated Press. p. D-1. Retrieved 2011-02-02.
3. Boehmer, George (February 11, 1993). "Germany vows to uncover Frankfurt airport security lapses" (PDF). The Daily Gazette. Schenectady, NY. Associated Press. p. D-1. Retrieved 2011-02-02. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)
4. Queen, Joseph W. (February 11, 1993). "Hijacker tells authority he won't be jailed, will 'be granted asylum'" (PDF). The Daily Gazette. Schenectady, NY. Newsday. p. D-1. Retrieved 2011-02-02.
5. "Questions raised over skyjacking, security" (PDF). Prescott Courier. Prescott, AZ. AP. February 12, 1993. p. 13A. Retrieved 2011-02-02.
6. "Gunman hijacks airliner" (PDF). Tuscaloosa News. Tuscaloosa, AL. AP. February 11, 1993. p. 3A. Retrieved 2011-02-02.

I may come back and do this later if I have the time. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 21:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. Done. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 00:13, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lufthansa Flight 592/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: wackywace 16:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I will review this article over the next day or two, and post my findings here. wackywace 16:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

This is an excellent, well-written article, and I only have two comments.

• Does Brook really need linking?
• I don't think sunglasses needs linking.

Additionally, I have found several sources which contain new information you may like to consider adding, although this will not affect whether the nomination passes or fails.

• Edward F. Mickolus; Susan L. Simmons (1997). Terrorism, 1992-1995. Political Science. ISBN 0313304688.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• McFadden, Robert D. (1993-02-12). "Jet Diverted To Kennedy By Hijacker". The New York Times. Retrieved 2011-02-03.

Regards, wackywace 17:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Unlinked "Brook" and "sunglasses." I have no idea why I linked them in the first place.... With regards to the Terrorism book you mentioned, do you know of somewhere that has that specific page available on line? The hijacker is only mentioned on that specific page, and I really don't want to go to the effort to track down or buy the whole book just for a single page that may just recap other information stated previously in the article. I will check out the NYT article when I get back from work. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 17:18, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Google Books does, here, pp. 292—293. Anyway, I'm now happy to pass this as a good article; it is an excellent read. wackywace 17:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Article name and related issues

The story described is about Lufthansa Flight 592 on February 11, 1993. I am not sure whether WP will ever get articles on all international flight routes, but the name of this article seems not to be right: Lufthansa Flight 592 is a (possibly still existing) route, and what is covered here is mainly the hijacking. If the article is supposed to cover the flight route as well, it should not use past tense for the route description, or it should provide a reference to when this route was discontinued, if applicable. Should this article be moved to Lufthansa Flight 592 hijack? What if a plane on this route is hijacked again? Lufthansa Flight 592 hijack, 1993? --Pgallert (talk) 20:01, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

The naming convention for WP:AVIATION, and particularly the Aviation Accident Task Force, is for an article about an accident, incident, or other noteworthy occurrence to be named after the flight in question. So, for example, the hijacking of Flight 592 is located at Lufthansa Flight 592. The exceptions to this rule are when a particular accident/incident/occurrence has gained a popular name, such as Munich air disaster, or when the flight does not have a flight number, such as 2007 Sudan Airways hijacking. See WP:AVINAME for more details.

WP does not actually have articles about flight routes, because there are thousands of them and they are not noteworthy. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:12, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

(partly cross-posted from T:DYK) Hmm, an advice page from a Wikproject. That does not really invalidate more general principles, such as that articles should have names that give a hint to what is covered in them. As a somewhat frequent flyer, I do expect a route description under this name, not an air crash report. To say something never becomes notable is WP:CRYSTAL. I have retracted my question mark at T:DYKas this seems to go far beyond a DYK submission, but maybe the Wikiproject wants to discuss that. Cheers, --Pgallert (talk) 12:50, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

...Are you really suggesting we rename the approximately 13,000 airplane accident/incidence/occurrence articles on WikiPedia?? Either way, I suggest you post over at WP:AVIATION. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 20:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

...Errrm, yes I do. However, as I seem to be the only one concerned about this, my suggestion will hardly get consensus I guess. For instance, I do not see how roads are any more notable than air routes. They have articles on WP. If they are being renamed or their path changes, we change the article. But I would certainly not expect B8 road (Namibia) to lead to a road accident description. (yes, that analogy may limp a bit) I rest my case, sorry for the confusion and extra work I caused. Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 07:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, unlike roads, which have a sort of semi-permanence, air routes are arbitrarily decided based on a variety of factors. Consider, for instance, that there have been, in the history of American aviation, over 1,000 airlines that have suffered incidents/accidents/whatnot. Now, assuming that each of those airlines operated, say, 10 routes, and now you've got 10,000 articles. Of course, we are all aware that the huge legacy airlines like United, American, TWA, and Pan American each had hundreds of routes .... Do you see where I'm going? I'm pretty sure I could safely ballpark the number of air routes in commercial aviation somewhere in the range of 100,000. And what, pray tell, makes a route notable? Things that happen to it.

Roads and highways are a whole 'nother fish. Personally I don't think that every US highway, for instance, needs its own article, but apparently I'm in the minority. And unlike in commercial aviation, we don't rename highways every time there's an accident. But yes, this is not the place for this discussion. If you do wish to bring this up in a wider forum, do post over at WP:AVIATION like I suggested previously. Cheers. :) --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 07:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Is he out of prison yet?

Is he out of prison yet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.2.21.11 (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)