Talk:Louise Whittock

Proposal for deletion

I am improving the article with a view to ensuring notability is proven and the article is retained. Material I have added includes her appearance as a broadcaster in the pioneering early days of radio, her performances with the D'Oyly Carte opera company and coverage by the Stage magazine. Peteinterpol (talk) 19:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

This person does not seem notable to me. She was only in the chorus of her one film, her tenure with D'Oyly Carte was relatively short-lived, and she never created a role with the company; she was just a replacement in mostly smaller roles. No other significant roles are listed. By the way, we cannot cite IMDB in article. You can cite it in the External links section, but it is not a reliable source for facts stated in Wikipedia articles. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:34, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello Ssilvers. Thanks for this. I'm not sure that it is correct to sat she was just a replacement in smaller roles (which is subjective anyway) and there are citations from The Stage and other reliable sources to support this. Similarly Wikipedia notability is not necessarily related to the length of time someone is notable - there are many notable people only prominent for a short period before they disappear from prominence.

I would also wish to emphasise her appearance in the pioneering early days of national radio. This was a person appearing regularly on the London stage and being reviewed in national publications, appearing in a film before that industry gained the worldwide prominence it now has, and appearing on national radio when its template for what we now have was being set. Peteinterpol (talk) 09:15, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

The article should clarify what her importance was to radio. It is not subjective at all what her roles were in the G&S shows. She did not create any of her G&S roles. That is a fact. The only two of her parts that were significant roles were The Plaintiff in Trial by Jury (a companion piece) and Lady Psyche in Princess Ida (not the leading role, but a significant supporting role). She played those on tour for one season. The other roles are tiny. She was with the company for only two seasons, primarily on tour. I don't think you're going to persuade me that she's notable by telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about with respect to Gilbert and Sullivan! The one citation to The Stage seems merely to note a mention in what must have been an amateur production, since D'Oyly Carte was the only authorised professional G&S company. So, her Gilbert and Sullivan roles do not make her notable. Her film appearance was as a chorister in a short film excerpt of The Mikado, one of several shows that she was appearing in with D'Oyly Carte as a chorister. As I said, to make it clear that her radio work made her notable, you need to give more information. As W. S. Gilbert wrote, "When everyone is *somebody*, then no one's anybody." (The Gondoliers, act ii, "There Lived a KIng") -- Ssilvers (talk) 09:50, 15 November 2017 (UTC)