Talk:Louis IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Darmstadt

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Royal descendants - break up the page? edit

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Up until the death of Queen Elizabeth II of the UK, John William Friso, Prince of Orange and his wife were the most recent common ancestors (MRCA) to all European monarchs. With the accession of King Charles III, who descends from Landgrave Louis IX through his father, the MRCAs are now Louis and his wife Charlotte. I have added one line of descent from this couple to each ruling monarch. I have included each of their children and grandchildren who are most likely to inherit the respective thrones.

This makes the page quite a bit longer. For John William Friso, this has been solved by breaking up his page and creating Royal descendants of John William Friso. That picture has a picture of each of the current reigning monarchs, as well as more detailed lines, since due to intermarriage there are often multiple paths between a given monarch and the MRCA. It is also likely that Louis IX is an ancestor to dethroned/claimant royal families, and it seems it would make sense to include them as well.

So, should we create Royal descendants of Louis IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Darmstadt?? Amorim Parga (talk) 15:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

ETA: Source for the ancestry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amorim Parga (talk • contribs) 15:09, 6 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

You know what? I'm gonna add one person from each deposed/claimant dynasty that is a descendant of Louis IX and ascendant of the current claimant.

Albania - Wilhelmine of Prussia
Austria-Hungary - Caroline of Baden
Brazil - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Bulgaria - Caroline of Baden
France (Orléanist) - Caroline of Baden
France (Legitimist) - Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg
France (Bonapartist) - Olympia von und zu Arco-Zinneberg, spouse of one of the current pretenders, descends from Caroline of Baden
Germany/Baden - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Germany/Bavaria - Caroline of Baden
Germany/Brunswick - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Hesse and the Rhine - all of them, as this is the successor state to Hesse-Darmstadt
Germany/Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Mecklenburg-Strelitz - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt (through different lines)
Germany/Oldenburg - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Prussia - Sophie of Sweden
Germany/Reuss (all lines) - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Saxe-Coburg-Gotha - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Saxe-Meiningen - Wilhelmine of Prussia
Germany/Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach - Wilhelmine of Prussia
Germany/Saxony - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Germany/Schaumburg-Lippe - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Schleswig-Holstein - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Waldeck and Pyrmont - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Germany/Württemberg - Wilhelmine of Prussia
Greece - Olga Constantinovna of Russia
Italy/Savoy - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Italy/Two Sicilies - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Italy/Modena - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Italy/Parma - Wilhelmine of Prussia
Italy/Tuscany - there seem to be no descendants of Louis IX listed on the page for descendants of John William Friso
Lithuania - Caroline of Baden
Mexico - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Portugal - the last Queen Consort, Princess Augusta Victoria of Hohenzollern, from Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Romania - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Russia - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt
Yugoslavia - Amalie of Hesse-Darmstadt

There. Two cases where the current pretender is not immediately discernible as a descendant of Louis IX but his spouse is, and ten where no obvious descent can be traced. Digging deeper might well show some line of direct descent for these twelve remaining pretenders. Amorim Parga (talk) 16:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

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