Talk:List of fan-owned sports teams

Fan vs. "public"

Do we know, in fact, that "fans" own these teams? Perhaps I inherited an ownership claim, but I'm not a fan of the team? I think this should be re-named "List of publicly-owned sports teams" or something similar. The point of distinction is that it is a collective ownership, not a corporate entity nor an individual, no? --ZimZalaBim ^talk 00:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I think , he means by (Fans) who are Club's members. Saudi⁹⁹⁹⁹ 00:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Huh? --ZimZalaBim ^talk 01:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it could be renamed as 'community owned' sports teams. 134.148.5.118 06:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I think fan-owned is probably the clearest, although maybe member-owned could also work? Sports teams under collective ownership?

On a related topic, I thought most German football teams were fan-/member-/collectively owned?

--Bcnviajero 18:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Every sports club in Germany has to be member. In the Bundesliga there are some teams driven by a separate Inc. or a Ltd., but the German FA says the original clubs have to be the owner of 51% or more of that Inc./Ltd. So all German teams are more or less member driven. 84.172.160.247 (talk) 14:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

fan-owned or supporter-owned clubs should meet some incuestionable points:

1. Should be open for all the fans of the club 2. One member, one vote 3. Anyone can be elected for president or the board

--sdmyp 14:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Colo-Colo and Atlas, out of the list

In the Colo-Colo page says -"In 2005 the club was turned into a joint stock company ("sociedad anónima") managed by Blanco y Negro S.A. (Black and White A.S., in reference to the team colors), and was put on the Santiago Stock Exchange."- It´s a Public comany that it´s innelegible for the list.

Atlas is not open for all the fans because only a hundred persons can manage the club

--sdmyp 14:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Added AFC Liverpool

As above 83.104.60.60 (talk) 09:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

middlesbrough

I reverted the addition of Middlesbrough. They're definitely not fan owned. If a fan-owned club exists that is related to Middlesbrough, it'd be better to add the more relevant article. Phwoar (talk) 20:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Soccer clubs

This category is a sub-category of Lists of football (soccer) clubs, Although it's obvious not all fan-owned clubs are soccer clubs. For example - all the Australian football clubs listed here, Hapoel Ussishkin from Israel Hapoel09 (talk) 11:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

brazil

all brazil big football teams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.10.129.195 (talk) 02:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

AFL Teams

Do any of these actually comply with the requirements listed in the opening part of the page? teams that are owned by fans (via either a collective organisation or where the assumption of majority ownership by a small group is prohibited by the club's constitution or governing documents). The only reference to Sydney Swans ownership that I saw in a quick search was saying the license is owned by the AFL. That's not a 'fan owned' team by any stretch of the imagination. Macktheknifeau (talk) 00:54, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Correct. No AFL clubs are 'fan owned'. The closest to being 'fan owned' is North Melbourne Football Club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.142.163 (talk) 05:28, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect majority of the AFL clubs are owned by the members who select the board, vote at AGM's and can called EGM's, They are generally structured as Companies limited by guarantee like most community sporting clubs. Therefore the clubs that do hold ownership of their own license or operate under a sub-license should be included on this page 101.160.6.81 (talk) 11:03, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Greenbay packers

Is there any reason the Greenbay packers are not on the list? Also, the Seattle Sounders are on the list, despite not being community owned. Thoughts on adding or removing? --TeaDrinker (talk) 22:13, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree. The Green Bay Packers is a significant community owned sports club, and the only one in the major sports leagues in the USA. --Sine Cera, Infobesity (talk) 05:27, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Portuguese clubs

In Portugal, the biggest clubs S.L. Benfica, Sporting C.P. and F.C. Porto, they all are obligated to have a S.A.D although the members (sócios) operate the club. Should these clubs be included in this article? BenficaNNossaPaixao (talk) 14:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned references in List of fan-owned sports teams

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• From Scarborough Athletic F.C.: "Town's fans get new football club". BBC Sport. 25 June 2007. Retrieved 14 August 2013.
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Elmira Jackals

I'm going to add the Elmira Jackals hockey team to this list. I don't know how to add sources to Wikipedia yet, but the article is dated September 4, 2014, and can be found at: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/hockey-s-green-bay-packers--echl-elmira-jackals-become--community-owned-174850134.html. Elsquared (talk) 04:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Fan or community/member?

What about changing the name to community ownership or member ownership? Fan ownership does not seem to cover it. Perhaps from an english pov it does, but not global. --Sine Cera, Infobesity (talk) 05:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Coventry United

Coventry United F.C. is not a supporter owned club. This statement from the Supporters Club: link:

Our long term aim is to be a supporter owned club and the more members we have the nearer that becomes a reality.

Until then, the club should not be part of this page. --One Salient Oversight (talk) 10:02, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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Welsh teams in English system

I've noticed that every team under the Wales section all play in the English system and they're listed both under 'England' and 'Wales'. Therefore I'm removing them from the 'England' section - I don't care if anyone moves them back there so long as they then remove the Wales section, I just don't see the point in listing them twice. 194.81.33.242 (talk) 11:27, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Categories

The definitions being used of Phoenix, Supporter Buyout and Protest are far too loosely defined, open to question and, in the case of 'Protest', far too negative and contradictory to the intentions of the fans concerned with most of the clubs labeled as such. These labels should be lost for the sake of both accuracy and to remove unnecessary personal opinion of the reasons for the club's creation. This purports to be a list of fan-owned sports teams, not to sit in judgement of WHY they are fan-owned sports teams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.28.123 (talk) 19:09, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Definition of "fan-owned"

The current lede claims that a team can be called "fan-owned" if "the assumption of majority ownership by a small group is prohibited by the club's constitution or governing documents". I don't get it. Maybe sometimes the latter means that, in practice, the club is "owned" or controlled by fans; but the two concepts seem very distinct. What am I missing? Ornilnas (talk) 12:57, 3 December 2022 (UTC)