Talk:List of dates for Easter

Rationale for creation of article

{{Dates for Easter}} currently appears on 4 pages, but using it as a list is desirable bcz it may be hard to decide how to find such info elsewhere than in an encyclopedia (even tho there are surely many other places available-- Hmm ... yes, Wolfram Alpha has a pretty cool pg for Easter 2011), and may be all that a user who types "Dates for Easter" or "Date for Easter" wants. If the list gets deleted, a substitute ought to be provided on the Dab Date of Easter. (Choosing which of the 4 it should appear in that Dab is what made me create the list).
--Jerzy•t 01:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Reply to Jerzy: I am cited in this article, but I find, from reviewing the "Talk" page, that I am completely outclassed. I do not believe that I should be considered some kind of authority. My original attempt at providing Easter dates for 326-4099 relied on the GM Arts calculator. I recall a historian getting in touch with me in order to tell me that one of my Easter dates was incorrect. What is your assessment of https://webspace.science.uu.nl/~gent0113/easter/eastercalculator.htm ? Is it possible to produce a literal list of Easter dates, instead of just providing a calculator? The Reverend Kevin Michael Laughery, Wikipedia name Exsult1 Exsult1 (talk) 23:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I searched for "date of easter" and Google found this article, rather than "Comptus" (which is what I actually wanted). Even if this page is merged into "Comptus", it would be useful to have a redirection from "Date of Easter" to "Comptus". -- Martin Bonner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.202.154.216 (talk) 06:56, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Facts on Easter

I need facts about Easter for school can you help me out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.38.147 (talk) 14:22, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes Jeffholton (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Wording needs adjustment?

Text currently reads "The Catholic and Protestant denominations thus use an ecclesiastical full moon that occurs four to five days earlier than the eastern one."

How can a Full Moon occur 5 days before any other? Isn't the point that if the ecclesiastical full moon four days earlier is prior to the New Moon, then it refers to the Full Moon 28 days earlier?

Or something like that?

I think the statement may be oversimplified as it currently appears. And astronomically confusing.

Jeffholton (talk) 16:11, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Because "ecclesiastical full moon" has nothing (except by chance) to do with "astronomical full moon". - Martin Bonner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.202.154.216 (talk) 06:53, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

5121-6482 year range

Easter falls on April 25, 5120 which it's the last time that Easter falls on April 25th until 6483 which is a span of 1,363 years more than a millennium.

Orthodox (Julian) Easter (25 Aprilth will occur under the Julian Calendar), 4 times in each 532 year cycle, this is the years after 5120 and before 6483.

5175 (Gregorian June 1, 5175)
5270 (Gregorian June 1, 5270)
5365 (Gregorian June 2, 5365)
5460 (Gregorian June 3, 5460)
5707 (Gregorian June 5, 5707)
5802 (Gregorian June 6, 5802)
5897 (Gregorian June 6, 5897)
5992 (Gregorian June 7, 5992)
6239 (Gregorian June 9, 6239)
6334 (Gregorian June 10, 6334)
6429 (Gregorian June 10, 6429)

So this makes in the year 5121 to 6482 range, Easter is no later than April 24. However this may or may not even be true since this is more than 3,000 years from now.

--98.31.29.4 (talk) 03:18, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Easter Sunday might fall on March 23 in 6483 in the Revised Julian calendar.

Jencie Nasino (talk) 00:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

1583–3066 year range

Of the 35 possible dates of Easter (March 22–April 25), March 24 is the rarest Easter Sunday date from 1583 to 3066, a period of 1,484 years. The last time that Easter fell on March 24 was in 1940, and the next one will not occur until 2391, a span on 451 years. In the long run, however, March 22 is the rarest Easter Sunday date.

The following are the nine Gregorian years from 1583 to 3066 in which Easter falls on March 24: 1799, 1940, 2391, 2475, 2543, 2695, 2847, 2915, and 2999. On the other hand, there are ten Gregorian years in the same range in which Easter falls on March 22: 1598, 1693, 1761, 1818, 2285, 2353, 2437, 2505, 2972, and 3029. Note the 467-year difference between 2505 and 2972.

Jencie Nasino (talk) 00:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Template Dates for Easter

{{Dates for Easter}} was recently deleted by Explicit without much discussion, because Gonnym did not like how it looked in Easter controversy. (It could have been limited easily with the right parameters, or just removed from that article.)

However, it was essential to this list article. There was no reason to delete it completely! Nigej correctly mentioned that its content should be substituted into this article.

Apparently, the place to ask for its restoration is here, so please restore it, Explicit. — Christoph Päper 20:40, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

I disagree. There was 7 days of discussion which is the standard amount of time for anyone wishing to join the discussion. There is no way to save this template. I'll take a guess and assume you mean with hiding the content, but I'll point you to MOS:DONTHIDE. So how will you show a table that messes up the entire article without it messing it up? Gonnym (talk) 20:49, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Seven days over Christmas. 🙄

Anyway, admins can restore deleted templates. I could then show you how to include a limited version in Easter controversy, and this article could then again use the template to do what it's supposed to do: show a list of Easter dates. — Christoph Päper 15:51, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

PS: I've taken this to deletion review. — Christoph Päper 16:41, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Earliest and latest Easter

Due to the complexities of our calendar (and the Computus), there are four equally legitimate ways to determine earliest and latest dates of Easter:

1. by month and day: 22 March through 25 April
2. by day of the year: 81st through 116th (never happened yet, only 115th)
3. by week of the year: W12 through W17 (never happened yet, only W16)
4. by Sunday of the year: 12th through 17th

There may be better ways to phrase this in prose than is done currently, but I strongly oppose the repeated removal by @Frank_Anchor. — Christoph Päper 06:08, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

That is reasonable, though it is unnecessary to specify whether every year is a common or leap year. Without a source explicitly explaining the leap day's effect on the DATE of Easter, (which there isn't), this would be considered WP:OR and possibly WP:COATRACKing and WP:TRIVIA. Frank Anchor 12:13, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Actually using our calendar does not constitute original research. Such application of well-known rules also does not require specific sources, because we're talking about simple mathematical facts here.

I'm afraid you're misconceiving "date" to mean only day+month+year, because that's the most frequent meaning, but there's also equally valid day+year, day+week+year and even weekday+year. (As this is about an annual holiday, dates without a year, e.g. Julian day number, are irrelevant.) — Christoph Päper 08:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

suggestion

in the table caption "full moon" -> "march full moon" that may help with the jewish passover. pietro 151.29.59.56 (talk) 13:17, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

April 24th Easter date during a leap year will be 4292?

The first April 24 Easter to fall in a leap year is in 4292, using the formula below

{{mod|4292|4}} = 0

As you see {{mod|4292|4}} = 0, as the last two digits end in 92, if the year was divisible by 100 then in order to be a leap year it must also be divisible by 400, since {{mod|4292|4}} equals 0, 4292 is a leap year

And {{computus|4292}} gives us 24 April

So in that case 4292 will be the first 24 April Easter to occur in a leap year. 2603:6011:E00:2:1C95:B586:A5BA:7440 (talk) 17:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Thats nice. But no need to include it here since there are other, earlier years with Easter on April 24. Also, there are other, earlier years in which Easter falls on the 115th day of the calendar year (i.e.25 April in a common year). Frank Anchor 18:07, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Week of Easter table

Weeks and ordinal Sundays of the 35 variant Gregorian Easter dates; right-hand columns show values for leap years if different Variant Easter Sunday Day of the year ISO week nth Sunday 1 March 22 081 082 12 2 March 23 082 083 12 3 March 24 083 084 12 4 March 25 084 085 12 12 13 5 March 26 085 086 12 13 6 March 27 086 087 12 13 7 March 28 087 088 12 13 13 8 March 29 088 089 13 9 March 30 089 090 13 10 March 31 090 091 13 11 April 1 091 092 13 13 14 12 April 2 092 093 13 14 13 April 3 093 094 13 14 14 April 4 094 095 13 14 14 15 April 5 095 096 14 16 April 6 096 097 14 17 April 7 097 098 14 18 April 8 098 099 14 14 15 19 April 9 099 100 14 15 20 April 10 100 101 14 15 21 April 11 101 102 14 15 15 22 April 12 102 103 15 23 April 13 103 104 15 24 April 14 104 105 15 25 April 15 105 106 15 15 16 26 April 16 106 107 15 16 27 April 17 107 108 15 16 28 April 18 108 109 15 16 16 29 April 19 109 110 16 30 April 20 110 111 16 31 April 21 111 112 16 32 April 22 112 113 16 16 17 33 April 23 113 114 16 17 34 April 24 114 115 16 17 35 April 25 115 116 16 17 17

Weeks and ordinal Sundays of the 35 variant Gregorian Easter dates; asterisks * indicate leap-year variants Variant Easter Sunday DOY WOY Sunday Suneve DL 1 March 22 081 W12 12th 12th D 1* 082 ED 2 March 23 E 2* 083 FE 3 March 24 F 3* 084 GF 4 March 25 G 4* 085 13th AG 5 March 26 A 5* 086 13th BA 6 March 27 B 6* 087 CB 7 March 28 C 7* 088 W13 DC 8 March 29 D 8* 089 ED 9 March 30 E 9* 090 FE 10 March 31 F 10* 091 GF 11 April 1 G 11* 092 14th AG 12 April 2 A 12* 093 14th BA 13 April 3 B 13* 094 CB 14 April 4 C 14* 095 W14 DC 15 April 5 D 15* 096 ED 16 April 6 E 16* 097 FE 17 April 7 F 17* 098 GF 18 April 8 G 18* 099 15th AG 19 April 9 A 19* 100 15th BA 20 April 10 B 20* 101 CB 21 April 11 C 21* 102 W15 DC 22 April 12 D 22* 103 ED 23 April 13 E 23* 104 FE 24 April 14 F 24* 105 GF 25 April 15 G 25* 106 16th AG 26 April 16 A 26* 107 16th BA 27 April 17 B 27* 108 CB 28 April 18 C 28* 109 W16 DC 29 April 19 D 29* 110 ED 30 April 20 E 30* 111 FE 31 April 21 F 31* 112 GF 32 April 22 G 32* 113 17th AG 33 April 23 A 33* 114 17th BA 34 April 24 B 34* 115 CB 35 April 25 C 35* 116 W17 DC

Which one of these two variants looks more useful? — Christoph Päper 08:33, 25 January 2023 (UTC)