Talk:List of The Loud House episodes/Archive 1

Archive 1

Format

Guys. I dont like the format of it. I want to get rid of those br thing to make it better. Crazybob2014 (talk) 00:28, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Format removal

Please stop removing formats like that, as you did to Article:List of The Loud House episodes. Carmen Melendez 22:54, 13 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carmen Melendez (talk • contribs)

Fake

Guys, please stop adding your fake episodes. However, fake airdates and episodes drive me crazy. So stop this instant. Singed: Carmen Melendez 21:13, 15 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carmen Melendez (talk • contribs)

Future episode sourcing

Per WP:V and WP:TVUP, all future episodes must have a reliable source accompanying them. Many IP editors and MapleTreeXZ have been adding unsourced episodes or episodes sourced to IMDb, which is not a reliable source. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:46, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

The Loudest Mission in episode 39

Please stop adding "The Loudest Mission". It really annoys me. Carmen Melendez 21:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Pulp Friction does not come before Pets Peeved

You guys are always wrong in this wiki. It's Pets Peeved then Pulp Friction. Carmen Melendez 21:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

A Message to Amaury

• Hello Amaury, I am a fan of The Loud House & I do not appreciate your changes to the list of episodes on Wikipedia. Sometimes less is not good & your edits are unbeneficial. Please restore everything the way it was before & leave it alone. Thank you. I am not JeremyCreek.172.248.41.151 (talk) 23:06, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
  • Please respond to the points made by both Amaury and myself in the topic above this one. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:08, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
    • Hello IJBall, I think you & Amaury need to respond to my requests, remove your edits to the episode list, & please don't make further edits in the future. Thank you.172.248.41.151 (talk) 23:12, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
      • Your request ignores the consensus up-page, as well as established WP:TV practice, that episodes need to be listed in airing order. It's incumbent upon you to show why episodes should not be listed in airing order. So far, you have failed to explain why this should be the case, beyond a vague "WP:ILIKEIT" argument, which is not policy- or guideline-based, nor is it supported by available sourcing. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
        • I feel like your edits take away all the details of the episodes & I feel upset. I like having more details on episodes of any TV show & I feel like your edits will be permanent. It doesn't matter if episodes of TV shows air out of production order. SpongeBob does this frequently, as well as The Fairly OddParents, & they are both Nickelodeon shows! It will be confusing for Wikipedia readers to know what the episodes are about.172.248.41.151 (talk) 23:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
          • Are your edits temporary?172.248.41.151 (talk) 01:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
            • I'm in a downward spiral, because of you and Amaury!172.248.41.151 (talk) 02:18, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
              • I strongly urge you to take Wikipedia:It's not the End of the World and Wikipedia:DGAF to heart – what we're doing here shouldn't be a primary focus of one's life. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:32, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

There Needs to be More Consistency

There seems to be no strict format to how this page lists episodes. Some of the sister episodes are paired up, while the rest aren't. There needs to be more consistency. Do you want the page to have all sister episodes paired up with each other, or do you want each individual segment to have a singular entry? It just makes the page look nicer when things are consistent. Jon23812 (talk) 23:53, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

They are consistent in that they are ordered by air date and match how they are listed in the sources. When it comes to animated television series—and some live-action series as well, but mostly animated series—one episode contains two segments, such as 103A and 103B. However, the segments don't always air together, and this is what makes animated television series so complicated. Most of the time, as seen here, when there's a new episode, it's actually just a new segment with the following segment being a rerun. From what I've read, it's some kind of tactic that networks use for ratings, something I don't fully understand, which is why they don't always air segments belonging to the same episode together. Amaury (talk | contribs) 00:23, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Blame Nickelodeon. We at Wikipedia aren't supposed to "pretty up" what others do – we are instead supposed to objectively summarize what happened. IOW, all we can do is list the segments for this show in the order in which they were aired. In fact, that is the consistency with how TV series episodes lists are supposed to be done on Wikipedia – episodes/segments are supposed to be listed in airing order. Period. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:19, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't think you read my comment correctly. I'm talking about how some episodes are paired up and others aren't. For example, you have the first 5 episodes and "The Price of Admission/One Flu Over the Loud House" paired up and the rest as singular entries. I'm suggesting you should split up the first five episodes and "The Price of Admission/One Flu Over the Loud House" into their own entries to match the rest of the page. Jon23812 (talk) 04:12, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

We read your comment correctly, and we already answered that above. Amaury (talk | contribs) 04:23, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

@Jon23812: These could be listed entirely "by segment" rather than "by episode", but there's two issues, 1) it would need to the consensus of editors at the Talk page here to do this, and 2) the current source used at the article for the prod. codes (The Futon Critic) doesn't support "splitting up" the segments that way, so there would need to be a source found that listed all of the segments separately. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:44, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

My Thoughts on the Final Result

I am so proud of your new and improved edit of List of The Loud House episodes, Amaury! I thank you and IJBall for working this whole ordeal out on improving the article. However, you forgot to mention that Pulp Friction was also directed by Kyle Marshall in the above description for Season 2. I fixed it for your pleasure.Elijah Abrams (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, thank you! I'll ping IJBall so he can bask in this appreciation as well. Amaury (talk | contribs) 07:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome!Elijah Abrams (talk) 07:23, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Re: June 2017 edit

My latest edit on List of The Loud House episodes ISN'T distruptive and vandalic! An information about the episode writer must be entered or written following the TV presentation, NOT with invented works. Luigi1090 (talk) 01:35, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

We're following what is shown in the screenshots of the title cards for each episode, as shown at the Loud House Wikia. We have spent several weeks trying to craft a consensus at this article in terms of what should be presented, and how it should be presented. As this point, only edits that are clearly improvements on this are likely to gain consensus support. In short, your edit was not an improvement, and ignored specific MOS guidelines such as MOS:BOLD. If you think there are ways the episodes list can be improved, I would advise you make your case here, and see if other editors think your suggestions are improvements. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:53, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

To enter the data you have to write EXACTLY and FAITHFULLY what is shown in those title cards' screenshots: in my latest edit, I demonstrated that "Teleplay By" doesn't exist in this show, so the right formation is "Written By" and "Story By". Luigi1090 (talk) 09:20, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Teleplay by and written by are the same thing. Don't talk down to us when you're the one being disruptive. Amaury (talk | contribs) 07:42, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@Amaury I'm NOT Distruptive because you're making personal attacks against me. Luigi1090 (talk) 11:37, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Actually, you'd assume the same thing but I've had editors restore "Teleplay by" even when that was the only credit (see the header title for American Gods). They may mean the same thing to us, but we credit them as they are credited. -- Alex^TW 10:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

That's right AlexTheWhovian. Amaury and IJBall stop it from acting as the absolute leader of a Wikipedia's page, because they're not at all (Wikipedia is for everyone). Luigi1090 (talk) 12:42, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

• Comment: Hey guys, the use of "teleplay" is an odd choice to me. I tend to agree that if the title cards say "written by", that should be the label used in the episodes table. I heard a podcast years ago where people were talking about SpongeBob. Quickly: SpongeBob was a "board-driven" (not "script-driven") series for years, and people who received "Written by" credits on that show typically didn't write full-fledged scripts/teleplays, they usually wrote outlines, which the storyboarders would build upon. If The Loud House is a board-driven show, it's possible that they follow a similar format. But the bottom-line is that if we don't know, or even if we do know, but can't substantiate it, we should use the labeling found on the title card. Also, for all we know there might be union rules for why people are credited a certain way. Maybe if you write XXXX words, you get a Written by credit, and if you write YYYY words you get a different credit. Who knows. Anyway, just something to think about. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:52, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: If that's the case, I would have no problem making those minor changes. My understanding is that "Written by" and "Teleplay by" mean the same thing, and on some series, like live-action series, you see "Story by" and then "Teleplay by." Similarly, in some you see "Story by" and then "Written by." "Written by" can be by itself, but "Teleplay by" can't, at least it seems that way. It's the "Story by" preceding them that makes me believe they're the same thing, but, again, if there's an additional "variable," so to speak, I would have no problem making those changes here. It'd be a simple edit. Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:24, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

"Teleplay" may only apply to live-action series. That would not shock me. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@IJBall: In that case, I'll go ahead and make the changes based on that and per the credits. Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:27, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Episode titles

WHAT'S TOO MUCH IT'S TOO MUCH!!! This is really a very personal attack of Amaury against me!!! My latest edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_The_Loud_House_episodes&oldid=787837194, ISN'T DISTRUPTIVE/VANDALIC because I've reinserted the missing closing quotation marks in 5/6 episodes, inserted the summaries' line (always in those 5/6 episodes), and especially I just corrected the titles of two episodes, which are: "Butterfly Effects" [vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/theloudhouse/images/8/8c/Butterfly_Effect_Title_Card.png/revision/latest?cb=20160612192006]; "It's a Loud, Loud, Loud, Loud, House" [theloudhouse.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_a_Loud,_Loud,_Loud,_Loud,_House]. Luigi1090 (talk) 01:26, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I think that you're taking this way too personal... Although, I'm confused about the double standards here, especially with this revert. The "L Is for Love" episode had to match Wiki guidelines and not the source, but an entirely cosmetic way to list the episode titles needs to match the source perfectly. It doesn't even with that revert - the titles don't include the HR tag or quotation marks in the source. So, I'd argue that quotation marks should also be included for the "part'ed" episodes. -- Alex^TW 03:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@AlexTheWhovian: My own isn't personal at all. This is a true war declared to me due to my clean job here on this Wikipedia's page by those who recite as if they're absolute bosses, because they're not at all (Wikipedia is for everyone). And then they see destruptive when there's not. I rightly only reported two episodes of the series in their proper title (with proven evidence). Luigi1090 (talk) 10:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Final Step

With the main article's semi-protection expiring on July 15, what are we going to do? How are we going to prevent heavy vandalism to the article by non-registered users after that day?Elijah Abrams (talk) 02:06, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

@Elijah Abrams: If vandalism resumes when the current protection expires, then we can just request protection again at WP:RFPP and the page will be protected for a longer period of time. Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:09, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

You got it!Elijah Abrams (talk) 02:12, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Also, can we add a note for "L Is for Love" regarding that in the episode, Luna is revealed to be bisexual, as she has feelings for Sam?Elijah Abrams (talk) 06:19, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Don't add it as a note, if it is an important plot point it should be included as part of the summary description of the episode, not as an aside. The reveal should be described as in how, not just stated as a reveal with no context. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:30, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Then will someone add this in the summary now?Elijah Abrams (talk) 19:49, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Episodes need to be listed in order of air dates

Episodes in episode tables need to be listed in the order that the episodes were aired (i.e. in order of air date). This is standard WP:TV practice. In the case of this article, the production codes are even included, so there is absolutely no reason not to list episodes in the order that they were aired.

As of right now, at least one season 1 episode, and numerous season 2 episodes are listed out of airing order. That needs to change. I am posting this message to the Talk page as a courtesy – but I, or somebody else, is very likely to reorder the episodes in airing order which is the correct WP:TV practice, in the very near future... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:34, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I concur with the above. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree as well. If episodes are in the wrong order, you need to cite a reliable source that says it is, not just expect everyone to believe you because you are omnipotent and awesome. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 00:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

But wikipedia is meant to be dumb. Well, at least a little bit dumb. NickelodeonFan46 01:33, 15 June 2017 (UTC) (Striking comment of editor indefinitely blocked for IP socking, etc. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC) )

I agree, of course, that they should be in airing order. I haven't looked much into it but Futon and Screener should help us with that. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:58, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

So, I noticed something in another article, and thought of this discussion... I just wanted to state that ordering by air-date is not always the WP:TV practice. An exact case for this can be seen at List of Supergirl episodes, specifically the fourth and fifth episodes of the first season. Cheers. -- Alex^TW 17:41, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

That was done because of the attacks in Paris on November 13, 2015. Just read the article and you will find out.Elijah Abrams (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I know why it was done. I was just commenting on how Episodes in episode tables need to be listed in the order that the episodes were aired (i.e. in order of air date). This is standard WP:TV practice. is not necessarily correct, and how they re sometimes listed in episode order rather than air-date order. -- Alex^TW 05:42, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Air date order is standard practice. Exceptions are rare and need to be well-justified and explained why standard practice should not be followed in some instant case. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:37, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Director, writer, storyboard columns

Per IJBall's message above as well as the discussion on his talk page, I've done a major clean-up here, most notably to order things by air date. It was such a mess, however, that rather than trying to dig through everything and attempt to fix things that way, I re-created everything from scratch in a sandbox page and then copied and pasted everything once I was done. I also cleaned up some other things as well made some additional beneficial changes:

• The Pilot and Shorts sections were removed due to being completely unsourced.
• A bunch of trivial notes were removed.
• Pretty much all of the episode summaries were copyright violations and were therefore removed.
• Columns for "directed by," "written by," and "storyboard by" were removed. They are not absolutely necessary and by removing them the episode tables are much more neat and compact for this article about an animated television series. Animated television series articles are a bit more complicated in terms of organizing content than live-action series articles, such as Andi Mack. A good example of animated television series articles being more complicated is this article before being cleaned up.
• Fixed a plethora of rounding errors with the ratings. It's not a difficult concept to understand that when the number you're removing due to rounding is 5–9, you round up—for example, 1.545 would round to 1.55—and that when the number you're removing due to rounding is 1–4, you don't do anything—for example, 1.283 would round to 1.28. However, like I said, I found a plethora of rounding errors. For example, a 1.918 rating for total viewers was incorrectly rounded to 1.91 instead of 1.92. Amaury (talk | contribs) 05:20, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Please reinsert absolutely "directed by"/"written by"/"storyboarded by", becuase a Wikipedia's episode table without those columns doesn't make any sense and you also lose that sense of curiosity and knowledge, about the work done by people in that series Luigi1090 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:04, 16 June 2017 (UTC)‎

First comment: Amaury's point was that, in addition to all the other problems with it (e.g. being unsourced, and downright in accurate), the original table was "too busy" with too many columns "sequeezing" the available information, and I fully agree with that assessment – in this case, "less is more": i.e. fewer columns is better.
Second comment: the 'Directed by' column absolutely does not need to be added back to the table: every episode of this series was directed by either Chris Savino (mostly), Kyle Marshall, or Chris Savino and Kyle Marshall together – that information can easily be reported in prose form at the article, so we don't need a 'Directed By' column at all.
Third comment: I don't see any point or necessity in including the "Storyboarded by" in the table. This seems to be some sort of "sacred cow" at some of the "animated series" articles, but it strikes me as effectively "trivia". It doesn't merit inclusion IMO.
Final comment: That leaves the "Written By" column – I can see some justification for adding that column back to the table, provided there is consensus for it. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:33, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Restoring the "written by" column sounds reasonable as long as it's done properly, as in listing the writing credits exactly as they are listed on-screen, names and everything. And if someone in our group wants to go through and confirm the credits when they have the time, that would be a huge help. I've already set a series recording for the series, but it'll take a while, and because we're with Charter, I can't log in to watch stuff on the Nickelodeon site because Nickelodeon is a Viacom network, and I guess they don't currently have any agreements or whatever with Charter. Amaury (talk | contribs) 06:31, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Keep the columns "directed by"/"written by"/"storyboarded by", becuase a Wikipedia's episode table about the animated series without them doesn't make any sense. Luigi1090 (talk) 06:19, 17 June 2017 (UTC)‎

As per the intro of MOS:TABLE: "...sometimes the information in a table may be better presented as prose paragraphs or as an embedded list." There is absolutely no advantage to presenting the "Directed by" column in the case of this series – one guy directed most of the episodes, and two guys directed them all between the two of them. Again, the information on the directors is tailor-made for a couple of sentences at the start of each season section, above the table. So oppose a "Directed by" column in this case as unnecessary and a waste of table space – that info is better handled by prose. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:33, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Oppose "directed by" as well for the reasons stated. When the director for each episode is pretty much all the same, then it's just taking up space and cluttering up the table, more so with animated television series articles. Amaury (talk | contribs) 07:00, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree with the ordering by episode airdates, but that's as far as I go. We should most definitely keep the columns, but merge the Writer and Storyboard columns into one. A clear of example of this is when I cleared this terrible version of Dawn of the Croods into this less terrible version, as {{StoryTeleplay}} allows for custom lines within the template; see the documentation for more. Constantly quoting WP:OSE as "you can't use the argument that other stuff exists" is especially invalid when other examples within the WikiProject Television also use the same format without issue; for example, the List of Vikings episodes article lists Michael Hirst as the same writer for every episode over four seasons. There has been no issue with that. If there have been variations of who directed the episodes, per the above post by IJBall, then it should most definitely be included, even if it was only one variation. Other examples of one directing helming most of the series can be seen at List of The Big Bang Theory episodes or List of How I Met Your Mother episodes. -- Alex^TW 06:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I have requested opinions at both Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television; therefore, not just the ones that have been personally requested. -- Alex^TW 06:52, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

You guys quote guidelines—and like they're policies, for that matter, when they're not—all the time, yet we can't? Funny. The WP:OSE statement is not irrelevant. Template:Episode table has the status for essentially all parameters as optional, including the aforementioned ones. They are not required to be used. Amaury (talk | contribs) 06:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

They're guidelines, yes, and they do exist for a reason. We don't just throw them out of the window after they've been created simply because we may disagree with them. You mistake what "optional" means in the {{Episode table}} documentation; "optional" means that they are not determinantal to the functioning of the template. For example, where {{Aired episodes}} states that the parameters at "Required", it means that |num= and |title= are required for the template to actually work. The more philosophical definition of "optional" for particular series does not belongs in the documentation. -- Alex^TW 07:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Cool, so they ignore MOS:TABLE at List of Vikings episodes... Who cares?! You are supposed to present information in tabular form when there is a clear advantage in doing so. There is no advantage to doing so when every cell, or nearly every cell, in a column is going to present exactly the same information. That's when you're supposed to use a sentence of prose (or two) to present the same information in a better form. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:06, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

The more specific guidelines and consensus' of WP:TV and MOS:TV come into effect over that of a general guideline. It also says "sometimes the information in a table may be better presented as prose paragraphs" (emphasis mine). Sometimes. And you yourself clearly stated one guy directed most of the episodes, and two guys directed them all between the two of them. If every single episode were the same, your arguments may have some validity; however, there is clearly variation for a number of the episodes, meaning that specific details need to be included for each and every episode. Even if only one episode was different from the rest, it would still be required. This is a nice discussion, by the way. It's what should have happened either before the editors, or after they were initially reverted per WP:BRD. Not an ensuing edit war. -- Alex^TW 07:11, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

You can still cover that in prose form, Alex: "Chris Savino directed all the episodes of season 1, except for the episode "One Flu Over the Loud House" which was directed by Kyle Marshall." Boom. Done. You've presented all of the information that's needed, without needlessly including a table column that would have contained almost entirely redundant information. Just because other LoE articles have been ignoring this doesn't mean that those other LoE have been doing it "correctly", or have been following "best practices". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:18, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect. We do seem to disagree. It is specific to an episode, and therefore, you include it in the row for that episode. Therefore, you need to include the details for all episodes. See the examples that I provided. However, this seems to merely be a discussion on the director columns, where the writer and storyboard columns are still required, even after I posted a suggestion and yet another correlating example for their inclusion. They may not have been following "best practices", as you put it, but nor have there been any editors who have had an issue with it and mass-deleted the content as a result. -- Alex^TW 07:22, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

"Therefore, you need to include the details for all episodes." Um, no – there is nothing anywhere that says what you are claiming. There is nothing that say this must be put "in table form". And the information isn't "mass deleted" – that's nonsense. What the discussion is about now is how to best present the information in question. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 08:09, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Mind if I ask why you're replying in the middle of a conversation, not the end of it? You're been here for long enough, you should know better. {{Episode list}} exists to list the specific credits of an episode. That's supportive enough. Else, why not list every credit in prose? ANd it certainly was mass-deleted; view the two versions before and after the edit, and a great deal of information disappears. Especially the writer/storyboard information, which was deleted without reason or replacement. -- Alex^TW 08:18, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea what your first point is. Second, you seem to be going off the idea that because parameters in a template exist that they have to be used – they don't (that was basically Amaury's point). Third, on the "storyboarder", I have yet to see anyone explain why this information is important enough that it "has" to be included: we don't include this for live-action series – why is it so important that it needs to be included for animated series? (And, no – "It's always been included in animated TV series LoE articles" isn't an acceptable answer here...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 08:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

They don't have to be used, no. However, when there is any variation at all, including a singular episode, then they should. I would recommend that you do your own research on why storyboard information is more relevant to animated series than it is to live-action series; there's plenty available. Though, your constant use of WP:OSE would suggest that you have nothing else to really contribute to that, other than the fact that you don't like it. Nighty night. -- Alex^TW 08:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If they were just re-inserting those columns, that would have been one thing, but they were all-out reverting everything, including the listing of all episodes by air date that was done among some other corrections and even re-introducing removed copyrighted content which is a big no-no. The two editors who reverted are additionally suspected of being sockpuppets—and an SPI has been filed. If the results come back as confirmed, then that even more invalidates their edits. Amaury (talk | contribs) 07:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

That does not validate the edit-war that became from your edits; was the SPI filed before or after your mass edit? Once you were reverted even the first time, you should have let the status quo remain and started the discussion then. But talking of the past won't fix anything. If the columns are reinstated, for which I still suggest merging the two writer-related columns, how else do you plan to do so unless you go back to the original version? I mean, you're more than welcome to copy-paste the content from an old revision, but it'd be easier to restore it and then make the agreed-upon edits, such as the ordering and copyvios. -- Alex^TW 07:31, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

It is standard WP:TV practice to list things by air date. There was no edit war on our parts. The article was such a mess before when editing that it'd be easier to look at an old revision and copy and paste. But I'm not going to respond any further here if you're going to keep making allegations like that. Amaury (talk | contribs) 07:35, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree on the air date. It's why I separate this into a "Director, writer, storyboard columns" section, as there does not seem to be an issue with that. If you see the article history, you will note a great number of reverts. That is proof within itself. Up to you how you do it, but I guess it would be easier to wait for further opinions from any editors that have been brought to this discussion through the correct means. -- Alex^TW 07:38, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

First of all, there's no rush to add back the columns – it's better not to have any information at all than information that is likely to be wrong in many places. Directors and writers are pretty standard – if there are only a few directors, they can be mentioned in prose elsewhere, or perhaps in bullet points above the table or notes in episode summaries. I don't have a strong opinion on the inclusion of directors in the table. Regarding storyboarders, WP:TV consensus is not to include them, most recent discussion here. – nyuszika7h (talk) 09:58, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Keep instead the storyboard artists. I had participated in that discussion and I was the first to be in favor of their inclusion. First because the animated series aren't like live-action series. Second because they're always shown in the TV presentation of an episode. Luigi1090 (talk) 20:49, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

It does not seem that that discussion took in the importance of a storyboard artist when it comes to animated television series, and only wrapped them up in with live-action series. -- Alex^TW 23:45, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Additional Article Improvements

Here is a new section I have made for suggesting additional tweaks to the main article. Feel free to make some suggestions! So far, is it okay if I make a note regarding that Chris Savino directed "Bathroom Break" (aka, the pilot), and Kyle Marshall directed "Slice of Life"?Elijah Abrams (talk) 22:47, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I should have said this earlier but, what do you think, Amaury?Elijah Abrams (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I still think we should add the additional release dates for "Bathroom Break!!" and "Slice of Life", even if the dates are from Wikia. Besides, some Wikia sites have REAL and true information on a subject!Elijah Abrams (talk) 05:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

They may or may not be true, but we can't trust them as Wikias are not reliable sources. Wikias, like Wikipedia, can be edited by anyone. The only difference with Wikipedia is that there are policies and guidelines that should be followed when adding information to articles. An example of a reliable source is The Futon Critic which is one source we use to source titles, air dates, and production codes. Another example is Showbuzz Daily which is used to source the viewership data. Amaury (talk | contribs) 05:57, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

So, that means no?Elijah Abrams (talk) 06:34, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Not with Wikia, no. If you can find a reliable source supporting those dates, however, then we can include them. Amaury (talk | contribs) 06:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, the older revisions of the article (the ones made before your edits) had the additional release dates.Elijah Abrams (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Except those weren't sourced, so the point is essentially moot. Amaury (talk | contribs) 20:37, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I think we need to edit the note for Season 2. Karen Malach produced BOTH Seasons 1 and 2, and there is no need to have Karen's producer credit on the note. It is most likely that for Season 2 and beyond, the show is trying to be in vain to Bunsen is a Beast, as well as the Flash-animated episodes of The Fairly OddParents, and have Karen Malach's producer credit in the title card of an episode/segment.Elijah Abrams (talk) 23:42, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Unfortunately, without sources confirming that, that's just WP:OR. It was indeed added, though, because it's a front-end credit in season two, so there's obviously some importance in it. I'll ping IJBall as he's the one who added that note and he can respond if he has any feedback when he's back from his wiki-break. He should be back by tomorrow. Amaury (talk | contribs) 23:43, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

As for own personal opinion, if this is equivalent to when we see the producer credit(s) during a live-action series before or after—depending on how the series does it—the opening credits sequence, which we don't make mention of there, I could see removing it as unneeded, especially when the producer is or can be listed in the info box of the parent article. Amaury (talk | contribs) 23:49, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, the end credits in Season 1 and 2 have Karen Malach's producer credit, and besides, the credits of an episode of The Loud House are shown on both TV AND on Nick.com. In fact, Karen's credit appears at the beginning AND end of every Season 2 episode!Elijah Abrams (talk) 23:57, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

At this article, leave things as is. For this article we are only emphasizing front-credit information, so Malach should be left out of season #1, as she was not front-credited like she was in season #2. People have to remember – there is still a main article for this animated TV series: the 'Production' section there is where information like this can/should be added (especially if it can be independently sourced). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Aww nuts! Any way, since the article on L Is for Love is being considered for deletion, can we add a note regarding that in this episode, it is revealed that Luna is bisexual, if the article gets deleted?Elijah Abrams (talk) 07:39, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Can we go ahead and add "Deuces Wild"? It's the latest short that was released today on Nick.com and on Nickelodeon's YouTube channel. Just make sure to add the YouTube link.Elijah Abrams (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, it's already been done. Anyway, can someone please write a summary for the short? --Elijah Abrams (talk) 21:25, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Production codes

Just for future reference, episode numbering and production numbering are two different things. Episode numbering is the order in which the episodes air, while production numbering is the order in which the episodes are shot. With most shows on Nickelodeon and Disney Channel, episodes are pretty much always aired out of production order. The only times they are not is where there's a continuing story, either throughout an entire season or in part of a season. In the latter's case, episodes part of the arc will be shown in production order, but episodes not part of the arc won't. Amaury (talk | contribs) 23:46, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

• Well about waiting for thefutoncritic to update their episode listing for the show, what if they don't at all?Elijah Abrams (talk) 00:28, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Split to season articles

I undid a WP:BOLD WP:SPLIT by Pierce2000 as I don't think a split is needed at this point. Season articles should have well-referenced material related to the season and not just be a copy of the season section of the list of episodes article. Not enough content to justify a split for length. Normally wait for about 4 seasons to think of creating season articles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:15, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Reference problem

Someone undid my edit to the reference in the table, and I need to undo it back. Well, it's necessary, because the table is used in The Loud House article; although in this article the reference works well, but in the latter article the reference failed because the reference name isn't used. - George6VI (talk) 05:05, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

In the future, you need to use edit summaries; otherwise, people don't know what you're doing. It would have prevented this. Amaury (talk | contribs) 05:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Zap2it

The Zap2it website has changed its layout! Can you change the Zap2it reference links, Amaury? Thanks! Elijah Abrams (talk) 07:20, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Season 4 confirmation

Season 4 just got confirmed yesterday, so why can't I add it now? Colgatepony234 (talk) 14:03, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't mean it's going to be airing anytime soon. Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:22, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2018

I wish to edit this page. 2607:FEA8:3120:F3B:9984:B408:B7DF:F6D0 (talk) 14:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done. This doesn't say what you want done, and this page is semi-protected. Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:33, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Credits for "Tripped!" and "Head Poet’s Anxiety"

Can anyone trying to edit the article please wait until the half-hour episode "Tripped!" and the regular episode "Head Poet’s Anxiety" have officially aired on TV to post the credits for the episode? They have been accidentally uploaded onto Amazon.com and on iTunes prior to their TV premieres, because they have been delayed a lot from their intended premiere dates, and they are most likely going to be removed extremely soon from those websites by order of Viacom until then. Elijah Abrams (talk) 17:35, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

It's okay to add credits for episodes even when they're not released on TV. CriticismEdits (talk) 03:05, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Info added to articles needs to be verifiable and episode info can't be verified unless the episode has been distributed or info is published in some reliable source. We are in no hurry, best to wait. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I mean as if an episode is not released on TV but is released online, it's okay.

If the online location is legally entitled to host it and it is available for verification by others. We can't link to copyright violations in cites. Usually that means the online location needs to be an official outlet either controlled by the network as they have first presentation rights, or a sales outlets like iTunes or Amazon as they get subsequent presentation permission. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:37, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Loud house Movie

The Loud house Movie was announced like a Month ago why not add it? Infinite Kid (talk) 01:09, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Is there a reliable source stating this? Amaury (talk | contribs) 01:09, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Plus Season 4 Was Confirmed Infinite Kid (talk) 01:10, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

February 4th premiere week

According to Zap2it, Amaury, there's one new episode a day for the show next week. On the episode guide for the show on Zap2it, try scrolling down. Elijah Abrams (talk) 05:48, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2019

After watching episode 141 (Lucha Fever with the Casagrandes), I have noticed the music that is played during the masked-wrestling scenes uses the theme music from the show El Tigre. Daltonscott23 (talk) 02:17, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please also see WP:NOR EvergreenFir (talk) 03:22, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: I think they're basically asking if a song is played in an episode, if it should be noted in the episode summary. So for example's sake, if Justin Bieber's "Baby" is played in an episode, it should be noted as such: Note: Justin Bieber's "Baby" was played in this episode. Of course I don't agree with that and it shouldn't be included as it's WP:TRIVIA. If it were a song from a series itself or from an actor who's in a series as a main cast member, that would be much more notable, but a random song playing in an episode of whatever series is not. Amaury • 19:12, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

"Write and Wrong/Purrfect Gig"

Although Zap2it lists the episode "Write and Wrong/Purrfect Gig" as airing on February 18th, that date is for the episode airing on Nicktoons on that day at 10pm, which is false. The channel has not adjusted its listings for February 18th yet to replace their airing "Write and Wrong/Purrfect Gig" with a Nicktoons airing of "Singled Out/Brave the Last Dance", which will air on Nickelodeon on February 15th at 11am instead of the latter. Elijah Abrams (talk) 19:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

@Elijah Abrams: I know they've replaced "Write and Wrong/Purrfect" with "Singled Out/Brave the Last Dance" for February 15. However, Zap2it does still list "Write and Wrong/Purrfect" for February 18. I do also see that it is a Nicktoons airing for February 18 at 10pm, but the date is still used on Zap2it, so for now, it's fine to keep it. I know it will most likely be replaced by the new episodes airing on February 15 ("Singled Out/Brave the Last Dance"), but just assuming that the Nicktoons airing is entirely wrong and is not happening is just WP:OR. It's fine to wait for Zap2it to update/remove the February 18 airdate instead of just straight away removing the airdate.

On another note, there is no need to remove the entire episode(s), even if the episode is postponed and the airdate is unknown. See Crashletes for example- multiple episodes had their airings cancelled, but the title + production code is still listed/source from Futon Critic, so they are still in the episode table. In this case, "Write and Wrong/Purrfect" is still listed on Futon Critic with the production code of 417, so even without an airdate, it's fine to leave the episode listed with that information. Magitroopa (talk) 22:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Sort in production order instead of premiere order

Should we change it to that? Many shows' episode lists sort the episodes in production order (example SpongeBob's episode list does so)

Example it would be like: 1a. Left in the Dark 1b. Get the Message 2a. Heavy Meddle 2b. Making the Case 3a. Driving Miss Hazy ... 85a. Present Tense 85b. Any Given Sundae

Colgatepony234 (talk) 15:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Not happening. Amaury • 18:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

This is why we also include the production codes in the table – if somebody wants to figure out the "production order", that information is readily available. But, no – we should list episodes in their original broadcast order. And if they aren't doing that at other articles then they're doing it wrong. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Honestly at this point, correcting the SpongeBob LoE pages from what it currently is ("wrong") would be a huge job. Season 1 has all the episode in broadcast order, but the problem already begins at the top of the Season 2 table where episodes first aired in November 2000 are listed before episodes first aired in October 2000- and this would need to then be fixed up for all the seasons after, being 2-12, again a huge job to tackle. You'd then also have more recent problems whereas "FarmerBob" is part of season 12, but already aired before the last few episodes of season 11. If some do feel like this could all be easily fixed- then sure, go ahead.

You would then probably have to deal with all the IPs and and SpongeBob fans who believe the tables should stay the way they are now, even if it's not considered correct. A bunch of episodes were listed for season 12, but have no WP:RS for the titles other than Vincent Waller's unverified Twitter. I'm pretty sure a bunch of people would be mad that those episodes were completely removed from the page, so I just kept the title listings and sources from Waller's tweets, but hid them inside the table until we actually have a source for them. Also for the earlier seasons, this is listed as the source for the production codes, but I'm not entirely sure that is considered a RS for that. Magitroopa (talk) 22:17, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

On SpongeBob: It's probably not. The Futon Critic has recent seasons (including a version of prod. codes), so those could be "fixed". I haven't checked, but I suspect the U.S.C.O. database probably has a lot of the other SpongeBob prod. codes... But, yes – it will take a coordinated effort of (multiple) editors to "fix" SpongeBob, but it's not something I'm interested in tackling. That whole suite of articles is problematic – IIRC, SpongeBob is another one that has "episode articles" for nearly every episode, despite that fact that I'd bet that 90% of them (or more!) are not notable enough for standalone "episode" articles. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Well then, this is the reason why WP:WINARS. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 17:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

About the episode "The Loud House & Casagrandes Hangin' At Home Special" (#999)

I don’t know about this, but the main wiki page for this show counts the episode as if it makes the episode look like 105 half-hours.

If so I have a question, would the episode count as an actual episode of the series and would you put it in the fourth season episode list? BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 15:30, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Fine as-is. It is part of the series but it is a special. Specials get their own section, but can still be added to the episode count. Magitroopa (talk) 15:49, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, and I'm sure that there will be another special someday. Not full-length episodes of the show I mean like specials that aren't apart of any season. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 18:26, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Make Season 5 in lavender color

I see that all The Loud House episodes are in different colors (such as Season 1 is in Lincoln Orange, Season 2 is in Lucy Black, Season 3 is in Lisa Green, and Season 4 is in Luan Yellow). So if you say yes, can we make Season 5 in Lily Lavender. I also have an episode list of this show on my own wiki community on Fandom.com (Sintopia Wiki) and I say it looks good. If you say no, there's no problem. I respect your decision and then I have to change Season 5's color the same you make it. Blanding Cassatt (talk) August 11, 2020, at 12:23 (Eastern Daylight Time) —Preceding undated comment added 16:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I was also thinking of this season color being purple, like Luna. I know Lana (blue) was the special and Lynn (red) was the shorts. So I think purple could work too. Colgatepony234 (talk) 19:12, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Season 5 color

I tried to make it purple, like Luna's color. On my monitor it's easier to distinguish. But on my laptop it's a bit close to the blue used for the special. Could it be changed to a more easy to distinguish purple color? Colgatepony234 (talk) 12:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I see the change and the Season 5 episode guide. On my Chromebook, it looks just right. Blanding Cassatt (talk) August 28, 2020, at 13:15 (EDT). —Preceding undated comment added 17:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

About Schooled! (#998)

The production code doesn't seem like to be a fifth season episode, even if people considered it the first episode in that season.

This episode needs to be more on the specials table, until the code is confirmed to be 501.

As a result, the episode shouldn't be in the fifth season table until official WP:RS is available. Until then, if you think it is the first fifth season episode, well, WP:WINARS.

Any thoughts about this?

BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 15:50, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

That's why we don't just go off of one source... see here. Magitroopa (talk) 18:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hm, interesting Magitroopa. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 21:19, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hangin' At Home special

How should that be added to the page? It is listed with a production code, 999, so it is a stand-alone special not part of any season. Colgatepony234 (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. ChannelSpider (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

On credits for shorts

"Clyde and His Dads", "So Long, Sucker", and "Robot Sitcom" have title cards in their international airings. I could only find the YouTube videos for the first two:

"Clyde and His Dads" "So Long, Sucker" Image2012 (talk) 15:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please add Season 6 to the article?

Can someone please add Season 6 to the article so when the episodes are announced, the episodes are on there.107.146.244.150 (talk) 04:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

That's not how it works. Magitroopa (talk) 05:02, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

OK and I understand. 107.146.244.150 (talk) 19:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Can someone please add the new episode "Camped!" on the article?

Can someone please add the new episode "Camped!" on the article? There is a new episode called "Camped!", and it was announced today, so can someone please add it to the article?107.146.244.150 (talk) 04:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source for this. Taking a look at both The Futon Critic and Zap2it, the supposed episode is listed on neither source. Magitroopa (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

OK and I understand. 107.146.244.150 (talk) 03:33, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

"The Loudly Bones" shouldn't be on the list yet

The upcoming episode "The Loudly Bones", which was accidentally uploaded to Amazon before airing on TV, should not be on the episode list here on Wikipedia yet! We should wait until Zap2it and Futon Critic have the episode on their listings and not use Amazon as a source, as it goes against the article's policy. This is all KampKoral's fault! Elijah Abrams (talk) 03:57, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

An episode being listed on Amazon goes against what policy exactly?... If the episode is listed there, it clearly verifies it is 'real', as Amazon is a reliable source. While the episode information itself can (seemingly) not currently be verified, that does not mean the entire listing needs to be removed altogether. The tile has a reliable source attached to verify it, it's fine. Magitroopa (talk) 04:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I know it is a problem that the episode is leaked by mistake, but some streaming services still count as good WP:RS for information. Besides Amazon, Netflix and Apple TV are also good examples. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 01:28, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Season 6 color

Once that season starts... should it be Leni or Lola's color? I know season 1 was Lincoln, 2 was Lucy, 3 was Lisa, 4 was Luan, and 5 was Luna. Colgatepony234 (talk) 23:15, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2022

69.80.81.12 (talk) 15:29, 4 December 2022 (UTC) Please put the episodes in production order and not airing order. And please get rid of hiccups and downs original title a major hiccup. We already have the episodes real title so why didn't you get rid of the original?

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Among Us for POTUS (talk) 06:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

The article's episode ordering

The article needs to a get a change from its ordering because its lists the broadcast order from when the show or episodes aired. All proof from the show's packaging order is on the US Copyright Office, DVD releases, the production codes on FutonCritic.

Examples:

• Episode 3 - Drive Miss Hazy/Not Guts, No Glori
• Episode 4 - The Sweet Spot/A Tale of Two Tables
• Episode 5 - Project Loud House/In Tents Debates

And this is not the only problem, its spin offs such the The Casagrandes and The Really Loud House had faced similarities with its order on their own pages. And just as stated to this talk page, they're packaging are from DVD releases and production codes from FutonCritic.

Riolulover2004 (talk) 03:06 28 April, 2023 (UTC)

Broadcast order is infact correct- this has been discussed regarding other shows multiple times in the past (Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television/Archive 12#Preferred Order of Episodes, for just one example) and is precisely why production codes are listed, so readers can know the 'production/packaging order' if they so wish to know. It is not being changed out of broadcast order, as it is correct. Magitroopa (talk) 05:26, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Waking History

This title is on zap2it's website, airing May 17. It's part of season 7 since Hurt Lockers and Love Stinks is the last episode of season 6 to make it 26 episodes, but it shows up under season 6 on zap2it; should I make the season 7 section now or put it under season 6? Colgatepony234 (talk) 12:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Broken reflist

What is causing that, and could it be fixed? Colgatepony234 (talk) 20:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

You can see it beginning to break comparing here and here. Likely the amount of refs in this one article, so an article split of some kind would likely resolve it as well. Magitroopa (talk) 20:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Is that what is causing the broken references that I tried to fix? Thanks for drawing me here @Magitroopa:. If we plan to split the episodes into separate season pages like how certain shows have season guide pages like ones associated with The Simpsons, we will have to work on making one for each season to put it's information and the respectful references there while leaving the shorts, specials, and films on the episode guide. I think someone started redirects for the seasons, so we can build off of that. Any objections? --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:32, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I was thinking the separate season pages can be organized in the way that SpongeBob's season pages do it. With the episodes in packaging order. Colgatepony234 (talk) 23:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:OSE- The packaging order done on the SpongeBob articles is actually incorrect and it should be airdate order with production codes listed as well, but at this point, the SpongeBob articles are the way that they currently are because it would take a lot of time to clean it all up. Magitroopa (talk) 23:09, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Getting @Alex 21: in this discussion. I requested him to combine the episode segments into their NumParts of a half-hour for SpongeBob episodes, but we could discuss on what consensus about the show still keeping its packaging order or not. If there is enough consensus to go by broadcast, Alex can the the order in a snap. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 00:04, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

If the segments are combined, the air dates of those that aired separately will have to be mentioned somehow just like it used to be if I recall. --Rtkat3 (talk) 01:41, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. Few things to unpack here to explain the technical details.

OSE is an argument for article deletion, it is not relevant here. The SpongeBob episodes article is completely acceptable being listed under production order, this is a common standard practice, a few other articles I know have a clear consensus in using this format is Supergirl season 1, and especially Futurama (those are just off the top of my head).

The templates at the end of the article are breaking because the article is exceeding the post-expand include size. WP:TV's standard practice in fixing this is to directly invoke the episode list modules rather than its templates, and to declare the episode lists outside the episode tables. I have done this in my recent edit, and despite the page size technnically increasing, it has halved the PEIS and allowed templates to continue to be used. -- Alex_21 _TALK 07:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

My bad- WP:OTHERCONTENT is what I meant. Either way, there have been previous discussions at WT:TV regarding this: Broadcast order is correct, production codes are listed if you wish to know that order as well. Magitroopa (talk) 15:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect. There are clear consensuses to list by production order if that is the order that makes more sense to readers, and WP:CONSENSUS is a policy that outweights WP:OTHERCONTENT, an essay. I have no vested interest in this particular article and how it's ordered, but broadcast order is by no means the only acceptable way. Cheers. -- Alex_21 _TALK 20:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Per Talk:List of The Loud House episodes/Archive 1, consensus was actually made to make broadcast order the preferred order for readers. I know fans want production but WP:FANCRUFT. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 22:48, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

If that's the case, then that is the consensus for this article and thus I agree that it's how it should continue to be listed. As I said, I have no vested interest in this particular article and how it's ordered, but broadcast order is by no means the only acceptable way, as the consensus stands for other articles. -- Alex_21 _TALK 07:39, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

LineColors For Each Season Going By DVD Sets

That is what most shows’ linecolor for seasons would use if going by DVD sets. This is how I imagine the colors being if the change as such happens:

Season	Segments	Episodes		Originally aired
				First aired	Last aired
1	52	26		May 2, 2016 (2016-05-02)	November 8, 2016 (2016-11-08)
2	49	26		November 9, 2016 (2016-11-09)	December 1, 2017 (2017-12-01)
3	48	26		January 19, 2018 (2018-01-19)	March 7, 2019 (2019-03-07)
4	50	26		May 27, 2019 (2019-05-27)	July 23, 2020 (2020-07-23)
Special				May 23, 2020 (2020-05-23)
5	47	26		September 11, 2020 (2020-09-11)	March 4, 2022 (2022-03-04)
Specials				February 15, 2021 (2021-02-15)	November 22, 2022 (2022-11-22)
6	49	26		March 11, 2022 (2022-03-11)	May 16, 2023 (2023-05-16)
7	TBA	TBA		May 17, 2023 (2023-05-17)	TBA

Links to DVDs:

• https://www.amazon.com/Loud-House-Complete-First-Season/dp/B098W8S6H8
• https://www.amazon.com/Loud-House-Complete-Second-Season/dp/B098WDGQ6B/ref=pd_aw_fbt_vft_none_img_sccl_1/132-2780613-3314712?pd_rd_w=oZdFJ&content-id=amzn1.sym.1383228f-ab5d-4064-97d6-80297ffcccd8&pf_rd_p=1383228f-ab5d-4064-97d6-80297ffcccd8&pf_rd_r=M76QP7TD627R7TQYSRFH&pd_rd_wg=SMKce&pd_rd_r=0ec0f4cc-fb64-45b8-ba08-ccf6e679a647&pd_rd_i=B098WDGQ6B&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.com/Loud-House-Complete-Season-Tripped/dp/B09TYTDK6P/ref=pd_aw_fbt_vft_none_img_sccl_2/132-2780613-3314712?pd_rd_w=ufJ8H&content-id=amzn1.sym.1383228f-ab5d-4064-97d6-80297ffcccd8&pf_rd_p=1383228f-ab5d-4064-97d6-80297ffcccd8&pf_rd_r=4AKBWTBAQ34B2JPDNF93&pd_rd_wg=NRcxb&pd_rd_r=6c4c5c56-93cd-446f-8b37-0552fe656041&pd_rd_i=B09TYTDK6P&psc=1

BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 00:40, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2023

Tough Guise and Bye Bye Birthday have already aired. If you can, please change and research the information on those episodes. 76.24.34.141 (talk) 19:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Huh? 76.24.34.141 (talk) 19:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Recoil16 (talk) 23:02, 5 September 2023 (UTC)