Talk:List of Resident Evil characters/Archive 1

Archive 1

Edward Ashford

There is no information whatsoever in this character, i can`t find a link that take me to his bio. Where it is? Zidane tribal 18:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Ark Thompson

Who the f**k deleted this?!I need f*****g research for my stories you f*****g douche(Who ever did it)

Ark Thompson is still listed here. There's probably more information at Resident Evil: Survivor. Gamer Junkie ^{T / C} 01:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Central discussion for RE article organization

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games regarding the status of individual character articles and a proliferation of articles dealing with RE fiction. Please join in if you are interested. Ham Pastrami (talk) 00:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Barry Burton

The last line in the description for Barry Burton is said twice. This should be fixed. Chosen One 41 (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Wehrmacht007 keep reverting to an inferior version of the article which contains such errors, and this will not be rectified until he stops edit warring.Mr T (Based) (talk) 11:28, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Among other things, this article needs some references. There are already some pre-existing references on the RE:UC plot summary section, which can be copied and placed in this article. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  09:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Claire Redfield source

When unprotected please note that there is a section heading titled "Claire Redfield" in in "Resident Evil 5: Terror in the Sun," GameInformer 182 (June 2008): 65 that can and should be used to further expand and reference that section of this article. The section of the Game Informer article notes that "she looks just like previous character models of Claire..." --Happy editing! Sincerely, Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:19, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Voice actors

I think it would be a good idea to include mention of the voice cast somewhere, as the pages about the individual games don't have it. -- Noneofyourbusiness (talk) 01:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Major recurring characters section

Should this section only include main/playable characters, instead of every cahracter that has been featured in at least two games? I mean is Chris Redfield would definalely be considered a main charcter, but I dont think that Kenneth J. Sullivan and many others should be on this list/--Mmmundo (talk) 13:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• I think so. From what I can see at least half of the characters in the list are there only because of a reappearance in Umbrella Chronicles, and even then 90% of those are just mentioned in a file. I hardly consider that major. Woodrow Buzard (talk) 02:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

　

• This article is titled "list of characters in Resident Evil 2", it should be thorough, exhaustive, and comprehensive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.179.6 (talk) 02:50, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Organization

This 'list' has experienced a lot of growth over the past week. This page's size on December 24th was around 36,000 bytes, and has now (December 31st) expanded to roughly 50,000 bytes. Much of this can be attributed to recent character additions, which seemingly borrow content from related articles, ex Characters in Resident Evil Code: Veronica, Characters in Resident Evil 2, and Resident Evil 4. It is seemingly pointless to have the exact same information in two places. For example, the HUNK section is almost identical, if not exactly the same, to its corresponding section in the RE2 Characters section. Similar claims can be made about the Jack Krauser, Steve Burnside, Luis Sera sections.

This is not an issue of plagiarism or a dispute whether which page featured the content first, but rather a discussion aimed towards determining how we should allocate the information on this page and its related articles. My suggestion would be to move a majority of the content on this page to its respected page, so this page may be an actual list (Wikipedia:Lists). Or perhaps create an article called, “Recurring characters in Resident Evil”, which can deal with main characters in the series, who have made multiple appearances, ex Chris and Claire Redfield, Wesker, Ada, and Leon. Input, Feedback, Brraaains? --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  12:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Chris Redfield

I've noticed Jill has her own page but why doesn't Chris have one? I'm just curious because Chris has been in a lot of games and now he's been in RE5 there's more information about him. Surely he deserves his own page now? Earisu ♥|^Talk 10:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It all depends on how much real-world info we can find on Chris' character (ex, character design, influence, reception, merchandise, ect) Chris used to have his own article, but it was merged here since it was only composed of in-universe information from the RE series. The Jill Valentine article was recreated because Kung Fu Man was able to successfully research and rewrite the Valentine article so it could stand by itself. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah I see! Well if/when real world info about him comes to light maybe he can have his own page again. Earisu ♥|^Talk 18:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Main Article for Albert Wesker

He is the only character to appear or be directly referenced in every game in a franchise that has sold 35 million games. He was also named as one of the greatest villains of all time. I think he certainly exceeds the threshold to have his own article. 99.33.95.2 (talk) 09:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I also don't see why you felt the need to make a new discussion on this when it's already being discussed above. Earisu ♥|^Talk 07:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

What I will say, just like the tens of thousands of retired athletes, wrestlers, fiction characters in television shows.... etc etc, that They could be inactive, retired, deceased, or even unknown status and there is main articles about that said people.

The only difference being a person vs. fiction. But if you give a character that is considered living a main article, I would believe a protagonist whom is considered one of the most influential and polarizing character in regards to this series should get his article. By looking at this article in it's current form, Jill is the only one who has a main article and the last game she is considered a central character is RE: Nemesis, MAYBE the Umbrella Chronicles but then that gives every other character that same right.

Main Character Worth list....

Chris Redfield Claire Redfield Leon Kennedy Albert Wesker Ada Wong (stretch but still was playable and influence) Carlos Olveira (again a stretch as we have not seen him since Nemesis)

The rest have been included in multiple appearances in the series' canon storyline.BlackScreaminMachine (talk) 16:30, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

It's not about worth though, it's about what real world information you can find out about them. Earisu ♥]]|^Talk

"Real-World" information about fictional characters, which at that point I understand since info would be relative to what the character did in the story and unless if released by parent company, canon information, then most would consider the page bland. But considering Wiki allows this for television show characters, then there is precedence. There is a fine line between an encyclopedia and a fanboy website. BlackScreaminMachine (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Fate of Rebecca Chambers

Hello. I changed the final line for the section of Rebecca Chambers from 'Her fate after the events of Resident Evil is currently unknown' to 'Her fate after the events of the original Resident Evil is not explored in any videogame of the franchise, but she is given starring roles in S.D. Perry's second and fourth novels: Resident Evil: Caliban Cove and Resident Evil: Underworld.'

It has been reverted but I believe this information should be re-included somehow since those novels, althoug its canonicity can be debated, do explore to great extent the experiences of the character after the Mansion Spencer incident. And she is given starring roles in both, as it is explained in their respective articles. 195.57.9.153 (talk) 15:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Wesker

Wesker has become the main villain of the series, shouldn't he get his own page now?68.5.246.171 (talk) 01:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

But he's dead now so he's no longer the main villain, well not until the creator decides to bring him back again which is a possibility but from the looks of things Wesker is dead and won't be coming back. So he's not really the main villain anymore. Earisu ♥|^Talk 10:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It wont matter if they actually do reboot the series. In which case he will pretty much be the main antagonist of this continuity. --68.8.120.25 (talk) 04:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess you actually have a point, thinking of it like that. But to get there own page they need lots of real-world info that can be built upon (as mentioned below when I asked why Chris hasn't got his own page). If some people got together and worked on a sandbox page to see if they can come up with something he might get his own page. I'm not really much of a Wiki expert though. Earisu ♥|^Talk 03:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

He used to have his own page but it was merged without discussion. He certainly should have his own page now. And no, there is no way to prove that he died. 99.33.95.2 (talk) 09:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you're having difficulty taking in the fact that a fictional character is dead, but he IS dead unless Capcom says so. The rockets went straight through his head, he mutated when using Uroboros which means he wasn't compatible with it and he was sinking into boiling hot lava AND he was driven with rage to kill Chris and didn't seem cool and collected like usual. Sorry to dash your dreams but he's dead unless Capcom says otherwise. There is no proof that he is alive, unless you want to argue that "the rockets passed over his head" or "he was just bathing in the volcano" or "uroboros wasn't mutated in him, he was just playing around" or "he was acting when he was pissed off at Chris". I think proving he's alive is a lot more difficult, I'm sorry. :] Earisu ♥|^Talk 07:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I also have to say, I'm quite disgusted that you stole the Albert Wesker Page from the Resident Evil Wikia and just pasted it as a new page, trying to claim it as your own. Did you even read my comment before yours on how Wesker could get his own page? No, you just stole a page from another Wiki. I said you need REAL WOrLD INFO for them to have a page, not a huge backstory of their life in canon. Not only that but Wikia pages don't follow Wiki rules and add speculation and misleading facts without sources to back them up, just look at the Ada Wong page they have.

Still, plagiarism is low, really low. Earisu ♥|^Talk 09:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Listen to this. Im pissed that a fictional character is dead. Call me crazy, but after all the stuff you seen Wesker put up with in the series, i feel like rockets and lava just is not enough to take him down. Did you play that RE5? At one point you have to shoot him like 5 times with a rocket launcher just to proceed in the game. I doubt a little lava would end his life. Uroboros or whatever it is obviously loved that guy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.99.172.232 (talk) 02:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Capcom producers comfirmed a while back at a convention that Wekser IS in fact dead for good and that there was "no way he could ever come back after that". I don't remember which one, either E3 or Comic-Con, but either way, it doesn't matter much. He's dead. Get over it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BionicExperiment (talk • contribs) 16:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Merge with other Resident Evil character lists

It is far too much to have nine separate lists about one media franchise's fictional characters who are not individually notable. The eight other lists should be compressed and merged here. Neelix (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

• Support --Explodicle (T/C) 01:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
• Support —Jack Merridew 09:39, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Done. The merge is complete. Work still needs to be done on compressing the list, removing excessive plot summary, and adding citations. Neelix (talk) 01:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose There is too much information to fit on one page. Best to keep it as two separate articles. Wikipedia is not paper, it isn't runing out of space. And any merge would probably end up being deletion in stages anyway. Dream Focus 02:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose as this particular franchise's characters are individually notable due to multiple appearances in games re-released multiple times on various major platforms and most wikipedically due to reliable secondary sources on development and reception used to source out of universe information. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 03:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

  This merger was a cluster fuck - we actually lost references, sourced material, and critical commentary, while picking up more fancruft. I'd like to point out that Characters in Resident Evil 4 had almost as many references and real-world commentary than this entire article (yes, I'm being partially facetious). It's not uncommon video game franchises to have multiple articles for characters; see the character articles for Final Fantasy, Legend of Zelda, Metal Gear Solid, or StarCraft. Second, I do not see why this merger was conducted with the only insight of two people over the course of less than a week - at least have the courtesy to address the top contributors of the page or wait for more users who spent a lot of time working on some of those pages to give insight. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  04:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Waiting five days is standard for merge discussions. When all the voices are in support at that time, it would be idleness not to act on the merge suggestion. In any case, the topic has not be closed to discussion, nor is the current state of the list set in stone; in fact, my last comment in this discussion stated as much. The loss of references in Characters in Resident Evil 4 mentioned by StarScream1007 are almost entirely cut-and-paste edits from the main Resident Evil 4 article; if any of them should be duplicated here, feel free to add them. With respect to Dream Focus's comment: which two separate pages are you referring to? If we were to have two lists rather than one, in what way would you divide them? Neelix (talk) 12:07, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The references were actually taken from the RE4 Character article and added into the main RE4 article by some random user who felt the RE4 should be bloated up (Compare the previous versions of the article from the summer of 2008). I felt the RE4 Character article had potential to someday reach GA level status. I feel that we should use the same steps to recreate the character articles on a case-to-case basis pending the amount of real world information we can muster up. The same process was used to recreate and dramitcally improve the Nemesis, Chris Redfeild, and Jill Valentine articles. Once again, its not taboo on Wikipedia to have multiple character articles for some games; see [1]. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

• Since you're claiming that these characters are individually notable due to reliable secondary sources on development and reception, would you please add these sources as citations? I've had great difficulty finding acceptable creature sources since we discussed it in December. --Explodicle (T/C) 18:19, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

• It's probably going to come down to recreating the character articles in sandboxes, and slowly buffing them up before they can be restored. It's happened before on similar articles. Finding sources is not an issue - look at the previous RE articles I referenced, which were rebuilt from scratch. The main problem is compiling all the data together and making something that is encyclopedic. It's just going to take a great deal of time and reorganization, which should have been addressed two years ago. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  03:49, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

• Support: per nom. Also per WP:Merge, the waiting period is 5 days. Ryan4314 (talk) 12:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

• Where does WP:Merge say that? I can't find it. --Explodicle (T/C) 15:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

• I'd like to point out that the current 133 kB is above the suggested 100 kB in WP:SPLIT - we should either trim out the garbage by deleting entries which lack real-world context or split (provided someone agrees to add real-world context within a month or so). --Explodicle (T/C) 15:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Then split it back into two articles, one listing characters, the other listing creatures. That makes more sense. Also, the main contributors to the article should've been contacted for the discussion. You were one of the ones who tried to eliminate it in the last AFD, and failed. The edit history shows you then tried to delete most of the article [2] in November. Why so determined to destroy? Whatever information is actually merged over here, will probably be deleted in time anyway. Best to keep it in its original spot. Dream Focus 19:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Any interested contributors were notified by their watchlists - contacting specific people is not standard procedure. I'd appreciate it if we could discuss the content instead of discussing me. Would you be willing to compromise? My problem (and presumably Jack, Ryan, and Neelix's) is with creatures/characters that don't have any specific development/reception sources. If you or A Nobody would agree to add those sources by July, I'll agree to splitting it as you suggest in the meantime. --Explodicle (T/C) 20:45, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Some things already had sources for them. [3] The primary source is the only source you need for a list article anyway. — Dream Focus (04:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)), — (continues after insertion below.)

The entries that already have reception/development coverage are fine, my issue is with the entries which lack this (for example, Wasps). I'm willing to compromise on primary sources (instead of the typical secondary sources) for this, but these should at least use inline citations. Does this sound fair to you? --Explodicle (T/C) 15:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

And the average Wikipedia user has far too many things on their watchlist to notice every single thing. That's why I didn't see it right away. I'm going to contact them now for their input. In the meantime, don't do the redirect again. Wait until a proper discussion is had and consensus is formed. Dream Focus 04:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Notifying users like that is votestacking. Please use the standard merge/split templates in the future. --Explodicle (T/C) 15:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

It is not vote stacking, its me explaining there is now a merge discussion for an article they had contributed significantly to, including the guy who first created it way back in 2005. Does anyone have an automatic way to do that? I only managed to find four people total in the edit history. Anything involving eliminating an article, should be done with the knowledge of those who worked on it. Dream Focus 19:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• This article has been around since December 15, 2005[4]. There is no policy violation here. There is no reason to try to destroy it. Some people don't like list articles of this type, and are rampaging around, attacking one after the other, trying to destroy them. Does it help the Wikipedia in any possible way to eliminate something like this? Other than you simply not liking it, is there any reason to delete it? This isn't a game guide, since it isn't telling people where to find the lost treasure, what attacks to use, what loot you get from where, what order to complete a quest in, etc. It is simply a list article, of perfectly valid Wikipedia content. Anyone who is interested in learning more about this successful series, can read what sort of creatures are in it, and get a detailed and complete list. The monsters are a key component to what make these sorts of games successful, and thus the information should be recorded. And every item on the list does need anything other than the primary source to verify it exist and is accurate. Dream Focus 04:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
• Support merge. No good reason to have separate list articles for the same franchise, much better to catalogue and collect them in one place. Verbal chat 15:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

So you want to destroy a list article, simply because you don't believe any franchise should have more than one? Dream Focus 19:42, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

"So you want to destroy a list article" No. "you don't believe any franchise should have more than one" Again, no. Verbal chat 19:48, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Rebecca Chambers merge

Given the lack of content in the article and the fact it can be summarized enough here, negating the need of a spinout at all, I'd like to suggest a straight-up merge of the article's entire material back into here, until enough proper reception can be found to warrant a spinout at a later time if possible. As it stands there's just not enough meat.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 22:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

• Support, of course; an excellent proposal. Sincerely, Jack Merridew 22:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Never should have been spun-out. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 03:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose There is enough valid information to fill its own article. I oppose deleting the article, and putting just a small token amount of information from it into this list article. Dream Focus 06:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
  • One sentence of reception is so far from "enough". And you're already making bad faith assumptions that any merge would "delete most of the content"? You were the first person to suggest deletion as an option. Regardless, spinning this article out from the list is completely unnecessary given the content. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 07:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
    • I am not suggesting deletion anywhere, just pointing that there is no possible way to copy that much information over, the article being too large. So you'd end up deleting more than half of its current content. Dream Focus 12:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
    • Dream Focus has expressed a concern in his user page that merger is merely an euphemism for deletion in Wikipedia. Although I have my own comments as to how correct it is, I believe a good faith merger would satisfy him. Fleet Command (talk) 08:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
      • I was referring to the actions of certain people where they'd eliminate articles they didn't like, by replacing them with a redirect, without any discussion at all, and claim it was "merged" even when it wasn't(that not what is happening here of course, since we have a discussion first), as well as the times I have listed specific examples of(on user page) when they agreed to merge the information over, then erased everything but one sentence claiming it was "merged". Dream Focus 12:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
        • Dream, cool your jets. Nobody said anything about deleting the article in any way. If you paid attention to the proposal it states to merge the content of the article as a whole. About the only thing getting nixed there is the lead, infobox and possibly any OR that can be tidied along the way. You should really start trying to assume some good faith here.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 12:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
          • The article is 6,875 bytes now, and looking at it, I don't see how you'd make it fit, or more importantly, why? No reason not to have it on its own as a valid content fork. Dream Focus 12:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
            • Lists have no size limits, and "it's too big already" is a poor argument to begin with. A little over ten more sentences is not going to suddenly break this article.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 12:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
              • WP:SIZERULE applies less strongly to lists, but IMHO we should still shy away from making a huge list longer. --Explodicle (T/C) 16:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
                • Actually there was a discussion on WT:VG on the subject where it was decided to take a more related approach to lists and size, especially in lieu of the Pokemon lists.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
• Support. Seems to me a right thing to do. Fleet Command (talk) 08:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
• Strong oppose as sufficiently verifiable and notable to justify a separate article (playable character with multiple appearances from Resident Evil The Umbrella Chronicles to Resident Evil 5 now. Just continue to improve it further. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 14:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Playable in one or one hundred games is far beyond being notable; what matters is reception, which Rebecca has only one piece of. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:39, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
    • Not anymore! :) Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 19:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
      • The Examiner is pretty much a blog (and not a newspaper like your reference (accidentally?) misrepresented it as. And the IGN reference was very weak as best, not actual reception but more a "hey you've got these guys too!" post on Schedeen's part. You'll have to dig deeper.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
        • I am happy to keep an eye out for more, but these sources sufficiently meet our standards for justifying a stand alone article. I would like to see the article improved further, but I am not able to be convinced that it does not meet the requirements for a stand alone article due to my knowledge of the franchise. Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 20:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
          • Like what's been argued, it's only a very small number of references related to creation or reception. The fact of the matter is that it does not need to be separate. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
            • I am not persuaded that there is any need for it not to be separate. Indeed, we provide our readers with a bit more detail about a major character by having it separate than simply lumping up a summary in a character list. Her article need not be as big as Mario's article to not be a stand alone article, just as an article on Napoleon II should not be as long as one on Napoleon I. So long as we have some development and reception information, even if just a couple of sentences, then I do not see any reason not to have the stand alone article containing it. Now, I absolutely do not think every character from this franchise should have a separate article. For example, I have no plans for calling for a spinout of something like List_of_Resident_Evil_characters#Dan_DeChant and you would be right to give me a hard time if I did. Rebecca, however, is one of maybe a dozen or so characters from this incredibly significance franchise who does have realstic potential for further expansion of a stand alone article and who is important enough for those who study women in video games to provide them with a summary of her development, role in the story, and reception. Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 20:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
              • Number of appearances in a series has nothing to do with importance. In-universe importance? Yes. Real world importance? No. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
                • Number of appearances has everything to do with real world importance, i.e. as a result of multiple appearances many more people in the real world will be familiar with the character and especially when those appearances extend beyond the games into toys as well that allow people to hold a real world replica of the character, something that cannot be said of the overwhelming majority of characters. Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 21:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
                  • WP:N does not at any point suggest that number of appearances has any weight. What does it tell us? It tells us "Rebecca Chambers is important to Resident Evil". It's called synthesis - "because she's made so many appearances in a popular series, she must be a popular character in the real world". - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
                    • I tend to go by WP:SENSE more so than the always disupted ever changing WP:N. And per common sense, number of appearances tells me that she is important to not just Resident Evil, but the millions of people who have step into her shoes in Resident Evil Zero, Resident Evil the Umbrella Chronicles, and Resident Evil 5. We experience and relate to a character we play as, sympathizing with them, if not almost becoming them as an actor playing role. That can of experience is important to the players of the game and not just the game itself. It is not synthesis when we can verify these appearances in previews and reviews of the games. She's a popular character in the real world, because she has made a couple top ten lists and in two other places writers on such sites as IGN devote sentences expressing their hopes that she will appear in Resident Evil 6, for example. Best, --A Nobody^{My talk} 15:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - it passes WP:N and this list is still pretty big. --Explodicle (T/C) 16:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• Looking at some of these other responses, am I missing something here? What's wrong with this source for establishing notability? --Explodicle (T/C) 19:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
  • The general notability guideline states that "multiple sources are generally expected" and that these must all "address the subject directly in detail" and be "independent of the subject." Even if we had a number of such sources, which do not appear to exist, the general notability guideline makes it clear that consensus among editors may determine that, "although a topic meets this criterion, it is not appropriate for a standalone article." Neelix (talk) 22:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

• My bad, I didn't notice that the "multiple" part is (now?) mandatory. There are a few other sources but how detailed those are is dubious... I guess I'm kinda neutral towards a merge now. --Explodicle (T/C) 14:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

• Strong support no independent RS establishing real world notability independent of the games and WP:ILIKEIT and improbable synthesis. Verbal chat 18:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
• Support limited notability and sourcing for anything outside the franchise. Splitting an article that will be little more then a fictional bio is just sprawl. Ridernyc (talk) 23:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
• Support - Not independently notable. Character articles should not be created or kept for the sole reason that the corresponding character list is too large; the information simply needs to be compressed. Neelix (talk) 18:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Sheva Alomar

Why is she listed as a secondary character? She's a pretty important main character of RE5 so shouldn't she be listed as such? Also her file (when unlocked) delves into her past so she's not just a secondary character with no background story. Earisu ♥|^Talk 10:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

To add, would anyone object to adding her under "Main Characters"? It seems silly that she would be put under "Secondary Characters" when she is a main character and is playable. I just want to ask before making such a change. Earisu ♥|^Talk 20:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, I think that Billy from Resident Evil 0, being a main protaginist of RE0 should be in the main character section, it seemed odd for me to have to look for him. I think he's got enough information, and was important enough for the prequel to be a main character, just as much as Rebecca Chambers. 71.104.191.156 (talk) 01:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the main Characters section is/supposed reserved for characters who have made multiple appearances with the series, and possess an important role in the story arch. I am not sure why Chambers was added, when she only makes two canonical appearances (RE0 and REmake). I think I tried to bring up this issue earlier, but... yeah :(. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  03:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense, main characters are one who are well known to the Series (ie. Chris, Jill and Leon). I would say Leon has only appeared in two games but he appears in the Gameboy Game with Barry right? I guess I'll leave Sheva where she is. :] Earisu (talk • contribs) 19:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Just a side note....the tattoo on sheva's left shoulder says "Shujaa" which means "Brave" or "The brave one" in arabic, you should add that to her section if you like. (this is my first contribution to wikipedia and i really hope to help make this site even bigger and better than it already is, thanks)...Spidy09 (talk) 09:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have just come onto the discussion board to also ask why Sheva isn't classed as a major character, because IMO she was just as important as Chris was in RE5, and also a playable character for a whole game...?? She has enough history, and there is enough info for her to have a slightly bigger category under Major Characters. I would do it myself but i thought i would ask on here first or it will probably just be moved back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.70.19 (talk) 21:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Sheva Alomar Main Character

You may have seen that i have re-written Sheva's information and have classed her as a Main Character now, IMO and many others i would think from the amount who play Resident Evil 5, she is definitely a Main Character. I have done it to the best of my ability but i am not that great at writing Wiki articles, you may want to change bits of it, but please dont remove it without discussing it first. Another reason why i think she needs to be moved is because it has recently been said that the upcoming Resident Evil Afterlife movie will take quite alot from Resident Evil 5, and whether that includes anything to do with Sheva or not, she is a very main part to that game and possibly more if included in any form in the movie. I did ask several days ago under the Sheva Alomar section but received no response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.70.19 (talk) 04:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Sheva is not a main character. If she is, then Ada is more of a main character than she is, having appeared in four games (RE2, RE4, REUC, and REDSC) while Sheva has only appeared in one. The only reason Sheva is under main characters when Ada isn't? She's more popular, god knows why. And if Sheva is a main character, so are Steve and Carlos, who most definitely aren't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.155.99 (talk) 19:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

good work!

Just wanted to complement people who did a good job cleaning up the resident evil category and organizing more of the characters under one heading. Probably needs a little clean up though but that will come. Homieclown23 (talk) 18:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced sections

Now that the merge debate seems to have died down, I'd like to bring up the issue of unreferenced sections. We've got a lot of them, and I consider this to be the biggest problem with the article. Here's what I'd like to do:

1. Tag all sections lacking sources.
2. Wait a month.
3. Remove or update the tags on any sections where sources have been added.
4. Delete the sections which still lack any sources whatsoever.

Does anyone have any comments/objections? --Explodicle (T/C) 15:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. The fanboys may erupt in outrage though.  :-) Geoff B (talk) 15:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

The fanboys being people that actually read the article, as opposed to people that just go around mindlessly destroying things because they like short pointless articles that are of interest to no one. Dream Focus 20:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Wow, what a surprise! Instead of just nominating those articles for deletion and going through the AFD process, they were all just merged together as one oversized article, and then after a brief delay, get deleted anyway. If the character articles didn't have sources before, then you aren't going to find any now. Dream Focus 20:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

• I'm open to compromise. Can you suggest a way to keep these sections while satisfying the verifiability policy? --Explodicle (T/C) 21:16, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

You can verify they exist from the primary source, no one sincerely doubting that at all. Not every entry on a list article needs to be proven notable on its own, just the article as a whole does, and that already established. Dream Focus 00:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

The burden of adding sources lies on you, not me. I'm not even talking about notability right now - I'm talking about verifiability. --Explodicle (T/C) 00:43, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

All information is reported from the primary source. There is no original research of interpretation going on here. If the character is listed as being in a game, then that is the source. You don't need a reference telling people to look in that game and the manual that came with it. Dream Focus 05:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

That's not quite enough. WP:V states that inline citations are required, and "the source should be cited clearly and precisely, with page numbers where appropriate". If someone wants to verify something they shouldn't be expected to beat a video game. --Explodicle (T/C) 12:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

The game itself can be used as a source, but make sure it is not the only source. All the unsourced crap (and plot sections) should be removed from this article. Geoff B (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, like he said, the games can be used as a source. Just source them. If it isn't sourced, it looks like original research, which is supposed to get deleted. I suppose this is what the whole discussion is about. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 14:02, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I posted a comment on Friday, then left for the weekend, and came back to find out that I got an edit conflict... So I will post what I was going to then.

• Support - By Wikipedia policy, if the people don't have third party sources, then they don't deserve any mention on a list. Just calm down. Wikias are where info can be found on those characters. Not here. They don't deserve to be mentioned, and there is no sense in fighting for them. Wikipedia is for notable subjects. Other wikis are where in-depth information on every character can be found. Thats just how things are. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 18:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

I have removed the sections which had been lacking sources since March. If anyone still needs more time to find sources, the old version is available here. --Explodicle (T/C) 17:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Wildman3386 is busy currently restoring unref'd stuff removed earlier. Geoff B (talk) 18:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

No mention of zombies or the gamecube remake's "crimson heads"?

It seems strange the series' most common enemy and its derivative was left off the list...--Bisected8 (talk) 00:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

I was just thinking the exact same. Odd... --217.120.67.19 (talk) 17:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

If you have any sourced info, add it. Geoff B (talk) 18:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Red/White Queen

Both are listed under "Other Characters", but shouldnt they be under "Characters created for the film series"? I know they appeared in Umbrella Chronicles, but nevertheless they appeared in film first. IchiGhost (talk) 21:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Licker? Bandersnatch?

noticed that the licker from resi 2 and the bandersnatch form code:veronica are not even mentioned on the page, id add them myself if i knew how to, can anyone do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.147.37 (talk) 22:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Click the edit tag on the right hand side under RE2 and RE:CV. I would add them but I do not have enough information, nor sourced information to back up what I would post. --  Grimbear13 ►Talk  18:27, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Barry Burton as main character?

He did appear in Resident Evil, the GameCube remake of Resident Evil, Resident Evil: Gaiden, and Resident Evil: Deadly Silence. He is also mentioned in Resident Evil 0, so wouldn't he be considered a major character?--FifthCylon (talk) 20:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I would say no because he only plays a supporting role and isn't seen that much. Also 3 of the games you mentioned are the same game just in various remakes.--  Grimbear13 ►Talk  18:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

L.J.

Why is there no article for L.J. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.5.101 (talk) 02:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Post-cleanup thoughts

Umbrella Corporation is not a character, maybe it should be moved to Resident Evil series article, or given its own, as it's featured in so many games and several movies (like Galactic Empire (Star Wars) or what not). It's really not a character anyway.

Maybe Rodrigo Juan Raval (Claire's companion in Code Veronica) and the heroes of the Suvivor games should be also featured? I won't even ask for Ashford family, there's no question about this one: central to the one game and to overall storiyline (T-Veronica virus). --Asperchu (talk) 14:26, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Adventures of an anonymous reverter

"When did Ada Wong become the main character? Explanation" - Answer: I guess I'll actually agree with this. But if you were smarter, you would just take and move her anywhere you think she believes more, instead of reverting everything. And hey, I fixed it for you. Happy now?

The Umbrella Corporation section problem still remains however. It should be either moved to or integrated with the series' main article, if it does not warrant its own. --Asperchu (talk) 02:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, you're EVIDENTLY confirmed as a vandal now (with various ip numbers). --Asperchu (talk) 18:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Calling other editors vandals is considered a failure against ADHOM unless you are prepared to report them (WP:AIV) or use a dispute resolution process (WP:DR). Geoff B (talk) 18:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Umbrella Corporation

I'm not sure when this happened exactly, the the Umbrella Corporation article was merged into this article. I went over the section today and noticed some odd things about it:

• No Lead - the section had no formal introduction to explain what role the company played in the series
• Too Much in-universe material - the section should not have to recap the events of the series; just how it was founded and what happened to it. After th lead, the section should be cut down to at least two paragraphs.
• Should we include other characters associated with the UC as subsections (eg. Spencer, Marcus, Wesker)?

Thanks. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  23:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I'd actually make it a separate article. Why? First of all, it's not a character! --Asperchu (talk) 01:51, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Result of the deletion discussion was to merge. Prime Blue (talk) 10:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

So how is this a character? --Asperchu (talk) 19:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

It probably seemed like the best place to merge the article at the time. STARS had a similar faith. It could possibly be recreated when it meets Wikipedia's guidelines for notability, fiction, and verifiability. Until then, its just another section that has to be molded to fit this article. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  00:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Red Queen and White Queen --Asperchu (talk) 22:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Why no hacked RE5 info?

It has been confirmed from the same people that hacked teh RE4 demo that Jill will be a boss twice. All the info on teh RE4 hack turned out correct.Capcom has also been trying to take down sites with the info out there. basic point is, Jill at the very least is alive....ish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.185.219.110 (talk) 21:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The reason it's not up on the site is most likely because we don't actually know what role she plays. Sounds like a boss battle, yes, but until we get more information we shouldn't be throwing rumors up, let's wait until we have more information.

Since Resident Evil 5 it is clear that Jill Valentine is alive. -- STD (talk) 07:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

History of the Page

The history of the page shows that information got lost several times. For example, Excella Gionne was mentioned in an older version, but her entry disappeared later. Who knows whatever work got lost additionally!

Main character information was moved to dedicated main pages, such as Albert Wesker, but was now copied back into this page.

Are there any explanations for that? -- STD (talk) 08:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

So how is Alice (Resident Evil) notable, again?

With her zero reception so far (for many years)? --94.246.150.68 (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Where are Sherry and Annette Birkin?

Sherry is a main character in RE2, and Annette is the wife of Birkin. --190.163.57.146 (talk) 09:59, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

How about the RE5 monsters, because of the alleged racism controversy?

Gues they're actually more notable than Las Plagas. --94.246.150.68 (talk) 10:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Please see Resident Evil 5#Allegations of racism. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Where's the Monsters

what happened to the monsters that used to be listed, Tyrant and nemesis are monsters not characters so they should still be present right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.205.20.42 (talk) 15:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Excella Gionne

I noticed a profile for Excella was added but someone deleted it, Excella is a character on Resident Evil 5, that is important enough t be added, its not like she is a character like Kirk or De chant who has no relevance to the plot, she is important, is a playable character in the mercenaries Reunion, and will be playable on Resident Evil The Mercenaries 3D, so I believe a profile for her wouldn't be a bad idea, so please do not delete it because you don't think she deserves to be on the list *looks at Sherry and the resident evil movie characters profile*

So add her? --194.145.185.229 (talk) 15:22, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

It should be HUNK, not Hunk

http://residentevil.wikia.com/HUNK <- like this (for example). --194.145.185.229 (talk) 15:21, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, S.T.A.R.S., not STARS. --194.145.185.229 (talk) 15:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

S.T.A.R.S is stylized as 'STARS' on Wikipedia per our acronym policy in WP:MOS. Since it is unclear whether HUNK is an actual code name or acronym, it's best we leave it as 'Hunk.' He is referenced in the RE3 epilogue as 'Hunk', but also mentioned as 'HUNK' in RECV. The Resi Wikia is not a reliable source (see WP:RS). I would suggest finding a reliable source that confirms the proper capitalization/stylization of his name. Thanks for the heads up. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  05:12, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

How about articles about Sheva and Rebecca?

Sheva was in just one game (as for now), but she has reception even now. Maybe when she returns in Mercenaries or something?

Rebecca is a recurring character but she has no reception here. But I've seen quite a some and it's not a big problem (I think). --Barry Sandwich (talk) 10:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposition: Merging the Tyrant

• No (there's no reason apparent nor provided). --194.145.185.229 (talk) 12:09, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Okay. --194.145.185.229 (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Carlos' Last Name

I noticed it was spelled as 'Olivera', which is the film's version of his name. In RE3 it is 'Oliviera'. I've made the necessary change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.76.232.162 (talk) 13:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Olivera is the film name, I believe. Though the Japan version of the game names him as "Oliveira", so I'm not sure if it's that or "Oliviera". Could be different for both versions. Akakeimei (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

What is the tag about an "excessive or improper use of copyrighted material" about?

\--194.145.185.229 (talk) 16:46, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

It was added by User:Tintor2 on 16 July 2011 with an edit summary saying "too many individual images violate nonfree content". Since then, two decent-quality images have been removed from the article. There remain only three low-res pictures, all with with fair-use rationales, and a geoetrical design that is the trade mark of a fictitious organisation. IMHO there is no longer an issue, and I have removed the tag. --Stfg (talk) 13:31, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Film Characters Split

We don't really have much information about the film characters now, but i would like to make a seperate page, so i can include ALL characters from the films. I can get all of the info and sources. --Norgizfox5041 (talk) 21:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Not "ALL", just the notable ones. --Niemti (talk) 21:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I just merged Sheva Alomar back in

Mostly because of her sole appearance in RE5 only, so I guess I'd unmerge her if she ever returns in any other media (game, film, anything at all). --Niemti (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Missing Characters

There are a lot of missing RE characters, the article is also short for a series with many characters The list must be updated with the release of RE: Revelations, it needs info of Parker Luciani, Clive O'Brian, Jessica Sherawat, etc.

it is missing all of the ppl from RE: Outbreak + the new ppl from RE:6

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.63.102.20 (talk) 15:39, 31 March 2013 (UTC) 

Moira Burton

Can she be added in?PeterMan844 (talk) 09:25, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Why is Ingrid Hunnigan not included in this list?

Shouldn't she be in this list since she is a recurring character in Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil Degeneration and, looks like, Resident Evil 6?

Please click on the link for some information: http://residentevil.wikia.com/Ingrid_Hunnigan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elreicht (talk • contribs) 03:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

She's a supporting character who is not a playable one, so she is arguably not notable enough.PeterMan844 (talk) 22:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

'Crimson Head' redirect

Why does 'Crimson Head' redirect here? There are no monsters listed here. 94.219.77.186 (talk) 21:06, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

A long time ago, someone created an article about Crimson Heads. That page was re-directed here a long time ago, back when this list contained information about creatures from the series. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  02:35, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

'Lord' Spencer

I cannot find any cannon documents that refer to Ozwell Spencer as a 'Lord'. I skimmed over the documents from the Resident Evil GC Remake, and came across some notes that referred to him as "Sir Spencer". Is it possible that this is the result of a miss-translation? --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  20:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

TerraSave

Should we make a section for characters who are a part of this group, or is it not needed?82.42.131.52 (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Let's hold off on that until we see the conclusion of Revelations 2. This list could go on the include an entry for every single character who has appeared in the series. Per WP:GAMECRUFT, it should be limited to characters who have been a major part of a game or had a recurring role in the series. Roberto Kendo for example only appears in one cutscene before he dies. His role barely impacts the game or series. Characters like Ozwell Spencer or Alexander Ashford are referenced in multiple games despite only appearing once in the series, and play major role in RE's back-story.--  StarScream1007  ►Talk  03:25, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi!

Please, may you add Evgeny Rebic?PeterMan844 (talk) 03:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Image that could fit the lead

Anybody knows the source of this image? It has most protagonists from the series and it could be used in the lead.Tintor2 (talk) 17:47, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

I ran a reverse image search on Google and could not find the original source. It might be fan-made. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  22:52, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I see. I think saw in a Gematsu page.Tintor2 (talk) 21:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Update Now there is a new poster with all the major characters here. It was photograph in the recent Tokyo Game Show, so it would be in some time, we can find an image. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 20:06, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Tofu

Can someone add information about Tofu since i am currently too busy to do it. It should be easy to cite. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 17:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

He's not a true character like HUNK is.PeterMan844 (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Rebecca Chambers

Two anonymous users (2.180.165.155 (talk · contribs) and 31.59.146.187 (talk · contribs)) have been engaged in a long-term edit war regarding Rebecca Chambers' placement within this article. There is an apparent disagreement in whether Chambers should be considered a main character in the series and listed in the 'Main characters' section. I am hoping we can resolve this dispute with a discussion rather than having two users consistently reverting changes. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  22:06, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Does anyone have any input on adding Ada Wong or Rebecca Chambers to the 'Main characters' section? Please discuss changes here as the article is presently locked to anonymous/new editors. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  20:31, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Resident Evil 7 Characters

We all know that Resident Evil 7: Biohazard will be out in a couple of days. I was going to add main protagonist Ethan Winters to Non-Affiliated characters and the entire Baker family to Non-Government Organizations but decided to relent, due to the low amount of info we know about them at the moment and for the sake of spoilers. I know some people have the game and will want to put down as many spoilers as possible, but adding these characters may encourage others to do so. I haven't actually played the game yet, but was going to include details presented in the trailers and in the Beginning Hour demo. Whether others add it or not, I don't mind, but just wanted to put this forward before I added anything. 51.7.67.42 (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Usually we wait till there are a couple reliable sources out that can confirm the information about the characters. However, there should be some information out for the characters in the RE7 Demo - "Midnight / Beginning Hour" (Clancy, Andre, Peter and Jack Baker). We could add section for the "Baker Family" under NGO as you suggested. I would suggest not worrying about spoilers. There is no policy on Wikipedia that blocks spoilers so long as they can be verified. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  19:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Chris Redfield was confirmed to be in a new mode in a tweet directly from Capcom, so can the "Redfield" entry be removed now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Resident_Evil_characters#Redfield PeterMan844 (talk) 08:35, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Do you have a link to the direct tweet? --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  14:05, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Yeah. Here it is. https://twitter.com/RE_Games/status/834917408192110593 PeterMan844 (talk) 12:19, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

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Resident Evil 2 Characters

I was considering adding characters from Resident Evil 2 to the list, since the remake will be coming out in a couple of months and I believe that some might need to be added to the page. The characters would have included Annette Birkin, Ben Bertolucci, Chief Brian Irons and Marvin Branagh. This edit would possibly include a section for the Raccoon City Police Department, though this might need to be merged with the S.T.A.R.S. section. Just wanted to know whether to go ahead or just leave them be. Dark knight 2013 (talk) 11:38, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Rebecca as a main character?

Would Rebecca seriously be considered a "main character" when she was only the protagonist of one game (arguably a side game as opposed to main series)? The only people I can really justify as main characters are Chris, Jill, Leon, Claire and now Ethan for their multiple appearances as protagonists. Ada and Wesker I can make an exception for due to multiple recurring appearances but not seeing the logic in Rebecca who outside of RE0 (and UC), only appeared in RE1 but not as a protagonist. If that's enough to make you a main character, then I guess we should stick Barry Burton, Sheva Alomar, Sherry Birkins, Billy Coen and various others in the section clogging it up. Stevenbfg (talk) 17:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I agree and feel it's a bit of a stretch to include Rebecca as a "main character". It may make more sense to include her under STARS only. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  17:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I had removed her before but it was reverted. Just wondering what the general consensus here is. Stevenbfg (talk) 17:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I do not think there was ever a formal consensus, even when there was a long-time edit war between two IPs over whether Ada and RC should be in that area. Any other input from other editors would be welcome. ---  StarScream1007  ►Talk  17:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Rebecca is the main protagonist of a mainline series game. Wesker and Wong, while only playable in portions of certain games they were in, are the closest thing series have to overarching antagonists which I also accept as equal in status to a main protagonist. It's not so much what role they play for the series overall, it's what role they play in the series instalments they appear in.

As for Jake, he has only appeared in one game so far, but in the capacity of a main playable character/protagonist, I've added one source and could easily find more to support that claim. Rebecca Chambers has made recurring appearances as a supporting character in the series, but 0 is what confirms her as a main character. For that matter, when I moved Ethan Winters up to the Main Character list a few months ago, that went without any controversy. Furthermore, he is still a mercenary and not an official member of the BSAA, so it would be inappropriate and illogical for him to be listed under that heading. In the absence of a clear consensus, then we'll have to stick strictly by verifiable sources I guess. Haleth (talk) 07:55, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I do not feel Jake should be added to the main character section given he has made as many appearances as a other main or playable characters, such as Billy Coen and Steve Burnside. I agree Jake should not be listed under BSAA, and should instead be moved to 'Non Affiliated.' Ethan on the other hand has (or will) make two canonical as a main playable character in RE7 and RE8. I do not feel the threshold for inclusion as a major character should be 'x character made at least 1 appearance as a main/playable character and at least 1 appearance as a supporting character,' as the list could then be extended to Sherry, Barry, etc. Sn argument could be made about Rebecca's inclusion given her appearance in RE1, RE0, and the RE Animated Films, which I believe are both canon and set in the VG universe. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  14:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok. Let's address this once and for all. As far as I am aware, there aren't any sources out there which definitively list or narrow down the overarching main characters of the RE franchise (unlike say Assassin's Creed where it's clear who the star is with each instalment). If we go by verifiability based on reliable sources, there are plenty of sources which identify the main characters of each game/installment within its discussion of said installment. In other words, we should assess case by case.

My personal take: as you all know, the Resident Evil/Biohazard franchise has had a lengthy history so far, and unlike many other franchises or the live action film series, the overall narrative of the series does not follow one or a few specific characters as it often forks at the whims of the developers (e.g. RE 2-4 skipped out Chris entirely), and they often don't follow up on plot threads established in preceding installments or adaptations in other media, at least not right away. My understanding is that this page is specifically focused in scope on the mainline video game installments, based on the table which shortlists characters: Zero, 1-8, CV, Rev1 and Rev2, possibly to an extent UC (which actually established Wesker as a main character since its plot is narrated from his POV and ties together all of his previous appearances into a coherent story arc) and DC (which retells RE2 and CV). The Alice-starring movies and the animated film adaptations are exactly that, adaptations of the video game series; canon status is irrelevant since wikipedia articles do not adapt an in-universe tone like Wikia/Fandom. The quantity of appearances made by a character over the course of the series does not necessarily have any correlation on their importance in the installment which they appear, but it may contribute towards establishing GNG and SIGCOV since media outlets often inevitably discuss said appearances (which is why Rebecca apparently has an article, whereas Jake, Barry, Billy and maybe Ethan don't).

So, Sherry Birkin can appear as often as they want her to, but until they make a game focused on her or at least have her as the undisputed protagonist of her own arc, she is a supporting character and sidekick with each appearance as intended by the developers, whereas Jake was intended and depicted as a main character; whether it was well received by players or not is another matter. I am not familiar enough with Rev2 to make a comment other then the fact that Claire is widely promoted as the protagonist. Is the story arc solely focused on Claire, or does Barry share equal billing with her as a protagonist of his own arc and not her sidekick?

I would argue that Billy deserves co-billing with Rebecca since media previews and reviews hyped the gameplay hook that you could switch between those two at anytime as a first in the series (and not with him in a Player 2-only sidekick role like the rest of the series), that is if we keep Rebecca under "main" as consensus. Steve doesn't have that level of interaction with Claire, and was basically treated like Sheeva, Carlos, or the deuteragonists of 6 and Revelations. Ada's campaign in RE6 is billed to be of equal importance to the other three arcs which have their own protagonists (Chris, Leon, and Jake), though it was not promoted before the game's release due to its spoiler-heavy nature. My observation is that it's more prominent then her previous appearances.

Let's see what the consensus is. I didn't think this would be as controversial as AfD or discussions of notability about a standalone article for a fictional character. Haleth (talk) 15:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Appearances

it should be updated, since RE 8: Village game was announced already, and so the characters are. 49.151.167.255 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Behind the Voice Actors cites

Interested editors are invited to participate in this discussion I've opened at the WikiProject Video Games talk page, concerning the formatting/content of the Behind the Voice Actors cites on this page. -- FeRDNYC (talk) 11:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

That discussion having been archived with no further discussion of the issues posed, I'm going to simply remove the invalid |postscript= arguments to the {{Cite web}} transclusions in this article. I'll leave the references themselves, without endorsement or prejudice, and let the chips fall where they may regarding their reliability. -- FeRDNYC (talk) 04:18, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Splitting Umbrella

Since the Baker family have recently received their own page, I think we need to consider doing the same with Umbrella. Its section arguable adds a lot of room and there is still a lot we can cover on it, such as fictional history and more members like Morpheus D. Duvall from RE: Dead Aim. It could also include further details about the company's operations, downfall and rebuilding in the recent RE games. It might cause some problems, particularly with character redirects to this page. Dark knight 2013 (talk) 11:40, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I was the one who created the article for the Bakers. Jury is still out on whether other editors from the NPP or VG Wikiprojects are ok with the article, but I do believe the topic meets WP:GNG since multiple sources have dwelled on discussions about the set of characters at length. I haven’t looked into whether Umbrella Corp or its members have had a similar level of coverage, though I am aware that the article name for Umbrella Corporation is locked and fully protected for some reason. An administrator will have to undo it before we can proceed with exploring your proposal. Haleth (talk) 12:27, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

• Whether a standalone article meets English Wikipedia's threshold for inclusion is a matter than can be discussed and "explored" regardless of the protection level of the title. The article was merged as the result of an AfD, and that was affirmed with full protection after a DRV, so the recommended way to go about this would be to draft your proposed article at Draft:Umbrella Corporation and then submit a new DRV arguing why new drafted version meets English Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, surpassing the AfD'ed version. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 22:45, 25 April 2021 (UTC)