Talk:List of Orthodox denominations

EO-OO communion has not yet been reestablished

"The restoration of full communion is not yet reached between the two sides of the bi-lateral dialogue" (Pastoral Agreement between the Coptic Orthodox and Greek Orthodox Patriarchates of Alexandria (2001)).

"Do you think restoration between our communions could happen within our lifetime? Sometimes I feel like, yes definitely, and other times I feel like, no. I think the jurisdictional infighting amongst the Eastern Orthodox is holding us back. The H.B. Ignatius IV is on good relations with our Patriarch H.H. Moran Mor Ignatius Zakka Iwas, and our Sees are perhaps closest when it comes to EO/OO relations. We are essentially as close as one can be to full communion, and I suspect that the only reason we are not in full communion has to do with each of our line's relations to our sister churches. You may or may not know, but we are not the only ones to share sacraments. The Copts and the Greek Orthodox allow intermarriage, and the children of such a marriage are permitted communion in both Churches. It is only a matter of time before it happens." (Frequently Asked Questions About the Oriental Orthodox).

The Coptic Church "is involved in an ecumenical dialogue that aims in the restoration of the intercommunion relations between both families of Orthodox Churches. This goal seems very reachable in the near future." (The Coptic Orthodox Church). Lima (talk) 19:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Verifiability

Alexyalex, please read Wikipedia:Verifiability. You may not insert your own ideas in Wikipedia. You may only insert what you can show to have already been published in reliable sources.

1. So, unless you cite a reliable source that makes the statement, you cannot insert: "The main christological differance between these two groups is that Eastern Orthodoxy believes that there exists two seperate natures in Christ - one Human and one Divine".
2. You may not remove a statement by another editor for which a reliable source is quoted. The above insertion of yours was used to replace a statement about what was decided at the Council of Chalcedon, a statement for which the actual words of the Council were quoted with a source given so that you can see that these were the actual words of the Council.
3. You breached Wikipedia rules also by removing, without explanation, the statement that there is not yet full communion between Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox, a statement for which no less than three reliable sources were cited.
4. You may not remove a request for a citation in support of a statement you made, unless you provide the citation. And if after a reasonable time you fail to show that your statement is verifiable, another editor may remove your statement. Lima (talk) 17:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Armenian patriarchs "titular"?

Why are the Armenian patriarchs of Jerusalem, Constantinople, and Ciliia listed as "titular"? Usually that denotes a bishop given an ancient see at which he does not actually reside, but all three of this patriarchs are actually resident in the regions listed. --Jfruh (talk) 19:34, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox

Does such a detailed history of the early history and divisions of Christianity really belong in a "list" page? I would think this material should be trimmed down to its bare essentials — just enough for the reader to get a basic idea of the major divisions, and no more — and any detail not already in other articles (such as Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Council of Chalcedon) should be moved there and removed from here. Comments? Richwales (talk · contribs) 18:30, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to add that such a trimming-down of this page would need to respect the already-existing sources cited here — by moving the citations to other relevant spots in the list, and/or by making sure any sources removed from this list page are cited where appropriate on other pages linked to from here. Not something to try to do quickly! — but not necessarily a reason to give up on the idea, since (as far as I understand) a list page shouldn't be filled with a sizable amount of non-list info. Richwales (talk · contribs) 02:00 06:27, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Orthodox Chucrh of America (OCA). Why is missing in list?

Founded in 1794 — Granted Autocephaly in 1970 http://oca.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.178.191.191 (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

OCA is not the same church as ROCIA or ROCOR! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.178.191.191 (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Why is Churches capitalized?

There is no reason why the word "Churches" is repeatedly Capitalized. I understand the word Church in "Eastern Orthodox Chuch" should be capitilized because it is part of a proper name. However, the word "churches" in "Eastern Catholic churches" is not a proper name for any thing, person, or organization. It does not qualify under MOS:PN. It is a general descriptive noun for these group of chuches. For example: American people and List of Orthodox churches are not capitalized correctly. — አቤል ዳዊት^?(Janweh64) (talk) 01:32, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Map is no good and clear provocation. Kosovo is still part of Serbia, and beside that part of Serbian Orthodox church, in fact City of Pec is located in Kosovo, and capital of Serbian Orthodox church. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.49.192 (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Does this really need to be split, as opposed to redirected?

I've always found it a bit odd that we have a list article about Orthodox Churches. Not only does this combine Eastern Orthodoxy with Oriental Orthodoxy for no good reason, but also, despite supposedly being a list article, this page has about as much explanatory text as actual lists. That is a clear indication that we actually need an article about Church organization, rather than a simple list. For the Eastern Orthodox Church, we already have such an article, whose scope overlaps completely with the EO part of this list. For Oriental Orthodoxy, there is very little content here to begin with, and that content is already included in its main article.

@Chicbyaccident: proposed splitting this article into EO and OO parts. But, as noted, the OO content is very brief, and already present on the main article about Oriental Orthodoxy, and hardly requires a separate list page. The EO content is longer, but its scope completely overlaps with Orthodox Church organization, so I think we just need to move it there (well, much of it is already covered there, so someone would have to look over it to see what information needs to be copied over and what information is just currently duplicated - I could do this in the next few days). Then we can simply redirect this page, either to Orthodox Church organization or to List of Christian denominations. Thoughts? Ohff (talk) 22:00, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Agree. Chicbyaccident (talk) 04:15, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

@Chicbyaccident: I apologize for not going through with this proposal back in May. I was occupied with other things at the time. I see that you split the article in two in the meantime. I hope you don't mind if I go ahead with the proposal now. I have redirected the List of Oriental Orthodox denominations article to Oriental Orthodoxy, since the main article already includes a list, and I don't see any need for a separate list article. Also, after posting this comment, I will merge the content from List of Eastern Orthodox denominations into the Orthodox Church organization article, then redirect. Ohff (talk) 09:54, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

In addition, I don't think the map that used to be at the bottom of this article should be used anywhere. It has a confusing colour scheme (many similar shades of yellow, for example) and shows both EO and OO jurisdictions together, overlapping each other. If we are to have maps, we need two separate ones - a map of EO jurisdictions and a map of OO jurisdictions. Ohff (talk) 09:58, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Alright. Chicbyaccident (talk) 10:03, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Done! Ohff (talk) 10:43, 3 August 2017 (UTC)