Talk:Comparison of IRC clients

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Latest comment: 15 days ago by Pppery in topic Removals by Pppery

Broken table

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The table under "Release history" has an error I can't figure out. It's pretty visible. Would someone better versed in this take a look? Thanks. Jessicapierce (talk) 17:27, 29 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

(Resolved.) Jessicapierce (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
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Linking to project-space in an article (plus external link)

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Hello,

It seems strange to be linking to Wikipedia:Verifiability in the lead of this article; therefore, I'm going to remove that link. There's also a link to someone's personal website in the list – especially considering no other item in the list has an external link, I'm going to remove that too. Please let me know if you object to either of these changes here. Thanks, DesertPipeline (talk) 11:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

xdcc in ircii

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ircii had the original xdcc script authored by some idiot whose name slips me 158.59.127.130 (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Adiirc irc-client missing from the page

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Adiirc irc-client is missing from the page, here's the homepage of the client: https://www.adiirc.com/ . Earg (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Adiirc is not missing, it fails the selection criteria for inclusion. For starters, it has no own article on the English-language Wikipedia. Without such article, it can not be included. Sorry. The Banner talk 23:23, 9 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Removals by Pppery

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User:Pppery Could you please explain why you are massively removing content without prior discussion? Wikipedia is not a top site. If a given client went unmaintained, but was originally meeting the notability criterion, it should be moved to a separate section perhaps. -bkil (talk) 18:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

WP:BOLD? Prior discussion is not required to remove content. And nothing was originally meeting the notability criterion - notability is not temporary so something that is not notable now never was. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
This is a list of notable packages, as defined in having its own article on the English language Wikipedia. I see no reason to object against the removals by Pppery. The Banner talk 18:50, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Let's just start with a concrete question. "HydraIRC" is mentioned in the banner as an acceptable inclusion. Why was it deleted then? -bkil (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Because I didn't see the banner before making my removal and instead independently came up with The Banner's criteria of requiring a standalone article. That banner is a decade old and I'm not sure of the degree it reflects consensus in 2024, if it ever did. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

You talked about notability as the rationale behind your removals, while the banner elaborates: "IRC clients added to this list must either have their own article, in which notability is established, or they must be verifiable using independent reliable sources which discuss the client. In addition to an optional primary source (the author), the client must be supported by either two "passable" independent reliable sources which discuss the client in a few paragraphs, or one "excellent" source which discusses it extensively. These inclusion criteria are the result of long, painful discussion; see the Talk archives, above. Only independent verifiability is required for this list, not general notability(required for article topics)." So, could you reconsider now and revert these changes, after reading through the banner and consensus formed on past discussions as per the archived talk pages? -bkil (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

No, because I am not bound by discussions over a decade old and I think that decision was wrong. And consider the more recent discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Comparison of mobile IRC clients. I think we've clearly reached the point where neither of us is going to convince the other of us of their position so further discussion is pointless. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
This one, I guess: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparison of mobile Internet Relay Chat clients (3rd nomination)?
And adding each and every package, will make it fall foul of WP:NOTDIRECTORY. As long as nobody feels the need to write an article about a package, you can not judge its notability properly. The Banner talk 16:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, that's the link I meant to use. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply