Talk:Lezgins

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I was trying to find some info about the Lezgins and couldn't find too much. What event does the following refer to:

"The term still strikes a chord in the hearts of most Russians for their fame in resisting Russian conquest for more than half of the 19th century."

The only thing I can think of is that they are referring to Imam Shamil who, apparently, was an Avar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Shamil

I won't pretend to know his ethnicity either way, or if the Lezgins strongly resisted the Russians, but this line isn't very clear and should be fixed by somebody who hopefully knows more about this subject than myself.

More MOS:FLOWERY language here: 'subject to innumerable invaders since time immemorial' --2A02:8071:81C1:F900:881A:146A:FA7E:B8D3 (talk) 08:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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Salam Alaikum, than I do to help? Xavkasvi (talk) 01:29, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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Where did the flag come from? --Eddylyons (talk) 21:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I always thought the proper name was Lezgi. Where did Lezgian come from? Sounds like an Armenized version. As my grandfather told my father, our ancestors Lezgis were driven south by the expanding Russians. This was a time great upheaval, forced migrations, constant wars in the region and well, Tolstoy tells is better! The same war goes on this very day by the way.--Murat (talk) 01:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Murat, you Lezghin from Turkey? Xavkasvi (talk) 01:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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Ethnologue

Ethnologue is not a reliable source. The source makes alot of bold claims. If I remember correctly that is what you or another Persian user argued when it was to be used in the Iranian Azerbaijani article. In the end it was not used because it was found to be an unreliable source. If you still want to use Ethnologue as a source then we should also use it in Iranian Azerbaijanis article. Or else you are just POV pushing. Neftchi (talk) 14:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC) Each number has its own resources:

• Ethnologue mentions 11 million Iranian Azeris. "[azb] 11,200,000 in Iran (Johnstone and Mandryk 2001)," [1][2] (note this is the latest version of ethnologue)
• The population for Iran in ethnologue adds up to 45 million (add up the total) and is highly suspect. It provides no source for many of the populations.
• However the population for Azerbaijan adds up to 8 million or so. Anyhow there are other sites mentioning the number of Lezgins as higher than the official count. So if the problem is ethnologue, I believe other sources can be found.--Khodabandeh14 (talk) 15:47, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

And that is all I meant, that you use other sources. Neftchi (talk) 23:22, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Lezginskie Organization cited figures 800,000 Lezgins in Azerbaijan. Xavkasvi (talk) 01:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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Many Lezgins in Dagestan, however, participated in the Great Caucasian War that started roughly during the same time the Russo-Persian Wars of the 19th century were happening, and fought against the Russians alongside the Avar Imam Shamil, who for 25 years (1834–1859) defied Russian rule. It was not until after his defeat in 1859 that the Russians consolidated their rule over Dagestan and the Lezgins. is exact match to relevant paragraph of Jeffrey E. Cole, (ed.) (2011). Ethnic Groups of Europe. Ethnic Groups of the World. Santa Barbara: ABC-CLIO, p. 237. ISBN 978-1-59884-302-6.--Kalogeropoulos (talk) 15:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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