Talk:Laurence Duggan

Improving the Article

Ideas for improving the article:

• Find more information/external links for the "Venona Version"
• Separate the Accusations/Defenses of espionage into other sections, with other details of his life (if available) in a biography-esque main Section
• Improve wording and heading name for the "Other Views" section
• Provide references for the "Other Views" section
• At least find exact sources for Date of Birth and Date of Death, and remove those categories.
• Feel Free to add more to this list.

Currently, while the article is less WWd overall, and is in agreement with it's own pathetic one reference, I still think it needs alot of work. Fiddlesoup 22:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

-- The Weasels, lack of sources, and pretty severe POV --

It appears to me that this page is a bit too weasely. According to the manual of style thing (I'm semi-new to this) you're supposed to avoid these "weasel words". From the looks of it, we have a source saying that this guy WAS a spy, and none to justify the misuse of 'supposedly', among with other things in this that give the impression that he was an innocent persecuted by a madman who then tripped because "his shoelaces were untied".

Also, many statements in here don't have sources. I'd add one of those citation things, but it's so bad, it seems better to revert to an earlier version, while attempting to preserve changes made after this.

- Ok, I reverted to an old version that matched the source we have on hand. I also condensed the new version as best as I could and put up a Weasel Word and Unsourced Statements sign on this new section (some weasel words were unavoidable, as I have no idea who "they" in meaning the persons who beleive he's innocent, are). Please do not revert to the new version, even if you think it's true, we have a source for this version. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth.".

• *sigh* used to have an account, but I couldn't access it, so I made a new one, which I'll hopefully keep track of. I'm open to discuss this, but the previous version seemed to have little to no content worthy of being in Wikipedia. edit:Especially since the previous version not-so-subtly implied that he wasn't a spy and didn't commit suicide, and yet was still in the category of "spies who committed suicide".Fiddlesoup 22:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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