Talk:Klomp

Variants of, or names for, the same thing

Klompen, Belgian sabots and French sabots look so similar as too be all but indistinguishable, making them effectively the same thing.

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  Belgian sabot from Belgium
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  Klomp from the Netherlands, not always decorated or painted
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  Unlaquered klompen made of willow wood.
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  Sabot from France

Peter Horn User talk 13:08, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Peter Horn User talk 13:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Peter, The images shown, look indeed similar. The y are all whole foot style clogs. Clogs in Spain and Lithuania are also of the same model. There are however models in The Netherlands, Belgium and France that are not shown on this page and that look not similar. For example the pointed clogs in France. See Google. The three pages are in fact sub pages of clogs and are waiting for being written by people from those countries who have the knowledge. By putting the three pages together in a page whole foot style clogs, this knowledge will less likely surface. It would also disrupt the national gallery index on the page clog and that would make it less user friendly. Kind regards, Berkh (talk) 13:51, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Nevertheless, the Dutch article has a section called Vlaanderen, which is worth translating. The whole aricle Klomp, from which I copied the additional image, has data worth translating. The basic model is all but identical. Peter Horn User talk 14:05, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Peter, There is a lot more that is worth translating. See the french https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabot_(chaussure). You also see there that it has a section about Belgian clogs. On the Talk:Clog there is a discussion about what to do with clogs from Belgium. The result of that discussion was to give them a page of their own. Kind regards, Berkh (talk) 14:13, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello,
For now I made Belgian sabot into a redirect to klomp, but at any convenient time this can obviously be turned into an article on its own / by itself without changing the name. Peter Horn User talk 14:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Peter, I don't think that is a wise thing to do. The page klomp is going to be adjusted to make it fit for Belgium too and then the same discussion can be repeated again, and again. Berkh (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

That adjustment is a jolly good idea. In that case the redirect will stand or be adjusted to take into account the new section, that is #REDIRECT [[Klomp#New section]] or perhaps #REDIRECT [[Klomp#Vlanders]] or whatever. As it is now, Sabot (Belgian) has two links to it. Peter Horn User talk 15:22, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah yes. I note that you removed an image that I had added. By so doing you removed the info that klompen can be made of willow wood in as well as poplar wood. Peter Horn User talk 15:37, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

introduction of plural

the native plural "klompen" is currently used inline with no explanation, this should be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.202.110.62 (talk) 20:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC)  Done Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:57, 4 June 2015 (UTC)