Talk:Karl Teichmann
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Georgejdorner in topic Victory credits
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MILHIST
editThis is a Start-class article. I think, if B3 was yes and B1 or B2 was a no, then you'd get a C-class for WP:MILHIST. Adamdaley (talk) 11:03, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
That's a fair assessment because the text is scanty...though I never have been comfortable with C Class. If you wish to jigger the templates into Start class, I shan't object. And many thanks for the assessment.Georgejdorner (talk) 21:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Victory credits
editIs he really an ace? Not unless there is some source for the method Austria-Hungary used for crediting "shared" victories. Under systems I am familiar with, he would be credited with 3.83 victories. .33 credit for the 26 September victory and .5 credit for the 27 November victory. --Lineagegeek (talk) 23:15, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Per Aerial victory standards of World War I#Austria-Hungary, he was an ace. There were no fractional victories awarded by anyone in WWI. You have apparently applied some self-concocted counting system. Or are you trying to use WWII standards that had not yet been invented during WWI?Georgejdorner (talk) 13:38, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- "self-concocted"! Learn some manners. Whether it is 3.83 or 5 there is no basis for notability in this article. Shooting down 5 e/a does not confer notability by itself, and there's not much else to see in this article. --Lineagegeek (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- My manners include giving sources for my assertions. Why don't yours? If you make unproven assertions, you lead people (like me) to think you are concocting them. And if you had checked MilHist notability, you would have found out that acedom confers notability. Again, how about a source for fractional victory counts during WWI?Georgejdorner (talk) 23:20, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- As I have said, even 5 victories does not confer notability. Since you appear dedicated into turning this into a conflict, and make much about "concocting" ideas, please provide your source for your assertion that "acedom confers notability." There is no WP:MILHIST guideline for personal notability. Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Notability guide#People. The revoked guideline is available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Historical SOLDIER essay, but it does not include acedom.--Lineagegeek (talk) 20:05, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- Opinions without sources for proof are worthless. You have yet to list a source for any of your opinions. End of conversation.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:54, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- As I have said, even 5 victories does not confer notability. Since you appear dedicated into turning this into a conflict, and make much about "concocting" ideas, please provide your source for your assertion that "acedom confers notability." There is no WP:MILHIST guideline for personal notability. Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Notability guide#People. The revoked guideline is available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Historical SOLDIER essay, but it does not include acedom.--Lineagegeek (talk) 20:05, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- My manners include giving sources for my assertions. Why don't yours? If you make unproven assertions, you lead people (like me) to think you are concocting them. And if you had checked MilHist notability, you would have found out that acedom confers notability. Again, how about a source for fractional victory counts during WWI?Georgejdorner (talk) 23:20, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- "self-concocted"! Learn some manners. Whether it is 3.83 or 5 there is no basis for notability in this article. Shooting down 5 e/a does not confer notability by itself, and there's not much else to see in this article. --Lineagegeek (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)