Talk:Kanye West presidential campaigns/Archive 1

Archive 1

Notability

Is this page actually needed? He sent out one Tweet. No FEC filing, policies or a website. Maybe a redirect to a mention in the main 2020 article, but a page at this stage seems VERY unnecessary. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I agree, for the moment. The speculation will be rampant, however; but, for now, I'm of the mind that this page should be a redirect pending additional notability. — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 02:49, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

This definitely feels like an article that should be blanked and redirected to here. There just isn't enough here for a spinoff to be necessary yet. I can see this being a controversial decision so it might be better to skip straight to WP:AFD so consensus can be reached. TJScalzo (talk) 03:34, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I say wait a couple days at least - right now I disagree that it should be redirected. DannyS712 (talk) 03:52, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I might nominate.this page for deletion. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:55, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I support removing the page for now. But if he launches a campaign website, I would recommend reinstating it. I also recommend adding his views to the Kanye West page. MetaTracker (talk) 04:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I recommend holding off. He's been toying with running for a few years. He has been engaged politically recently. He has endorsements and a platform. The article cites the one Green Party filing that says "Kanye Deez Nuts West", which could have been him. Hold off. In the event he does not run, this can still be a page and show that people fell for it and it can still be very much detailed. Capriaf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.0.106.121 (talk) 12:29, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I vote for immediate deletion. soibangla (talk) 21:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Soibangla: Just so you're aware, the debate regarding this article is happening here. — Czello 21:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I am against deletion. So far most signs are showing that he is running as an independent candidate. If it later changes and he admits that he is joking I will support deletion Haris920 (talk) 21:46, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete immediately. West is not a serious candidate. He has already missed several filing deadlines and has done nothing to organize a campaign.Calmecac5 (talk) 17:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete; Kanye West is just seeking out publicity. He has not taken any steps to run or to get on the ballot. --108.54.32.185 (talk) 20:29, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

This is not the AfD. This is the AfD. KidAd (talk) 20:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete: I will have spent more time on Kanye West for President than has Kanye West by the time I type this wor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.169.20.151 (talk) 22:38, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete; the basis is one tweet and nothing seems to show he is serious.DMT biscuit (talk) 23:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't know why people are voting here. This is not the AfD. Nothing said on this page will count towards the outcome. Please provide your rationales at the proper AfD discussion. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Joe Biden

Do you have any West vs Biden polls since there is one vs Trump? --Kyle Peake (talk) 17:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Polls are likely being conducted right now, but the one poll vs Trump is from 2015 and Biden wasn't a candidate then. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:00, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Nice4What: Oh thanks, I hadn't clicked on the source so did not know; I am aware Biden only announced his presidential run in 2019 though. --Kyle Peake (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I think this is worth keeping at least for the month of July 2020.

Kanye West's campaign, as up in the air as it is, does now have fairly concrete details about it. As far as I have seen, this article shows all of the information about his campaign as comprehensively as any other source on the internet, including party, slogan, history, advisors, supporters, and developments. This article lists many of his stances and would be a great tool for prospective supporters or people interested. In addition, I really don't think its an example of any of the deletion rules. It's not a hoax or a scam or obvious promotion. It's not overly dated and the information is still relevant. It's not full of errors or made by people who are banned. I think this is a valuable resource, at least for the time being. If the campaign goes nowhere, then delete this by all means. Sorry if I wrote this wrong, but this is my first discussion. 73.16.62.143 (talk) 21:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi! There is a discussion about deleting or keeping this at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kanye West 2020 presidential campaign that you can participate in (if it hasn't been closed). --Closeapple (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Keep this page

https://www.foxla.com/news/kanye-west-says-hed-model-his-administration-after-wakanda-government-from-black-panther

In a new Kanye West rant he is talking about having his White House Cabinet modeled after "Black Panther" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:C600:3C20:38BD:6E30:AFCA:BEC9 (talk) 17:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

https://www.insider.com/kim-kardashian-pro-vaccine-husband-kanye-anti-vaxx-presidential-campaign-2020-7

Here is an interesting one Kim Kardashian does not Support Kanye West's anti-Vax rants According to Insider this article looks at Kim Kardashian's vaccine record. The Whole ploy here is to use that against Kanye West in the 2020 elections over who gets the Anti-Vax Vote2601:640:C600:3C20:DC82:1674:D136:F7DF (talk) 02:20, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Kim Kardashian-West is one of the only celebrities to publicly demonstrate her pro-vaccine stance, despite her husband Kanye West's anti-vaxx opinions.

West recently announced he was running for president on an anti-vaccine and pro-life platform, and told Forbes in February that he is skeptical of vaccines, including a not-yet-existing vaccine to treat COVID-19.

"It's so many of our children that are being vaccinated and paralyzed… So when they say the way we're going to fix COVID is with a vaccine, I'm extremely cautious," West, 43, told Forbes. He also said that he had COVID-19 and took hot showers and watched instructional videos to treat himself.

There's no scientific evidence to back up West's claims, as Insider's Connor Perrett previously reported.

Specious endorsement list

I'm removing most of the names (as of 2020-07-09) that are blindly listed in Kanye West 2020 presidential campaign#Endorsements with no qualification, statement of how long it lasted, or any further explanation, all based on single-line, fleeting social media posts (and sometimes even ignoring contradictory follow-ups). The stretch that needs to be made to interpret any of these as solid endorsements requires a non-neutral pro-sensationalism bias, sometimes picking which sources validate the view, and is often just Wikipedia editors selectively interpreting everything themselves. Included in the fever-dream WP:ITEXISTS rush to pile on:

• Elon Musk, according to the given source, sent the tweet "@kanyewest You have my full support!" (Note: Newsweek has been a questionable/tabloid source since 2013: see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and the discussions linked there.) But later in the Wikipedia article, it says that Musk tweeted "We may have more differences of opinion than I anticipated" then deleted it, according to an Inside Hook article (a site of unknown reliability). (Note: Kanye also claimed in the later June 8 Forbes interview that Musk would be on his campaign, with no indication from Musk.)
• Kanye's wife Kim Kardashian replied with a single U.S. flag emoji and nothing else. From that, suddenly a Forbes breaking-news staff writer (who should know better) claims outright not only that Kayne "formally announced", but that Kardashian "publicly pledged her support, retweeting West’s statement and adding a U.S. flag emoji". Breathless fanboys on Wikipedia then use that as proof that it's an endorsement. By paragraphs 6 to 8 (after getting all the sensationalism out of the way) the writer does point out that the alleged presidential run seems questionable. When there's evidence, from Kim not Kanye, that she's actively pushing for this and not just being a supportive spouse, then that will be a different story. (Note: Kanye also claimed in the later June 8 Forbes interview that Kim would be on his campaign, with no indication from Kim.)
• Dez Bryant tweeted a line "I’m voting for Kanye west .. I didn’t judge you on your vote don’t judge me on mine 😂" — with the laughing tears emoji, then replies only eight minutes later with "I’m trying to joke and laugh a lil bit I forgot what I was on Twitter 😂" again with the laughing tears emoji. The same type of wiki editors who thought that a single emoji is an endorsement from KimK, then turned around and ignored the emojis from Bryan, and his statement that he was joking, and declared, as fact, that Bryan has endorsed.
• Darrelle Revis tweeted only the phrase "Kanye has my vote". Wiki editors immediately cited a Fox News(?!) claim that "Revis was among those who appeared to back West’s idea" and an SI.com article that actually says "It is unclear if Revis was joking about his vote or if he is seriously considering throwing his support behind a West candidacy." But who cares if the sources actually say it's in doubt, right? If you're a Kanya fanboy who doesn't understand Wikipedia policy, that's WP:RS that it should be listed as endorsement.
• Colin Moriarty tweeted "I just want to be 100% clear: I'd vote for Kanye West over both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, literally any day of the week. I don't know what that says about me, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, or Kanye West, but it's true." Wiki fanboys immediately paste in "Colin Moriarty, co-founder of Kinda Funny" as an endorsement, somehow missing the "Kinda Funny" part that indicates that he's a comedy producer, apparently on the theory that it's not proof he's joking, but it's somehow proof that he's not joking. (Also, even if it's not a joke statement, interpreting it as endorsement still requires the wiki fanboys to turn their hypocrisy up to 11 to assume that somehow Kanye's run is legit, yet the 50+ minor candidates' campaigns aren't, and therefore Moriarty's favorite is Kanye rather than the other 50+ waiting in line behind Trump and Biden.)
• Ty Dolla Sign, no evidence but a no-context Ye for president 🗣" with no follow-up. WP:SYNTH.
• 2 Chainz apparently just posted a screenshot of the Kanye tweet on Instagram with the comment "Shiiit I hated i voted early real talk" followed by "So my bad I can vote again !" And from that [1], of unknown reliability, claims "2 Chainz is planning on casting his vote for" West and "took to Instagram to make his official endorsement" but then follows with "While it appears as though Chainz backs Kanye's decision to run 100%..." So is it just a plan to vote, or "official", or "appears", or what? Trick question, because you can't tell. But again, that didn't stop some wiki fanboys from digging until they found whatever would validate their own excitement.
• Masika Kalysha, citing a tweet at [2] — which no longer exists only 4 days later.

Stretching any of those into claiming a solid endorsement as fact is a WP:BLP violation and massive misinterpretation of WP:RS. See WP:SENSATIONAL, which makes sense as much for individual claims as for article notability: "Even in respected media, a 24-hour news cycle and other pressures inherent in the journalism industry can lead to infotainment and churnalism without proper fact checking, and they may engage in frivolous "silly season" reporting." Claiming that a living person, that is presumed to be as knowledgeable about the U.S. presidential campaign cycle as any normal American, nonetheless truly "endorses" a campaign starting less than 4 months from election day, is an WP:EXTRAORDINARY claim, and exceptional claims require exceptional sources. Hand-waving about "generally considered reliable" and "Twitter means the same as permanent documents now!" doesn't cut it. A sensational excitement point-of-view is a non-neutral point of view. --Closeapple (talk) 21:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

If reliable sources call it an endorsement, it should be included. Musk and Kardashian are also his advisors, this is a no-brainer. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I spent over an hour researching all this. I put the full explantion of why blindly declaring shallow sources "reliable" here is leading to conclusions that are contradicted by other reliable sources. I put a notice inline right in the article, saying not to put them back until there was a discussion. I then added a sentence asking not to remove the notice until the discussion was done also. Is there absolutely anything that anyone could have possibly done that would have convinced you that, when there is a removal and a discussion, you should wait for the discussion before restoring, like WP:BRD has said for years? --Closeapple (talk) 17:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I have said before in discussions that if we simply went by what is in sources without using discretion, we might as well call it "Kardashianpedia". I had no idea how right I was. 2020 man. A bunch of celebrities tweet joking about Kanye are not endorsements. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:15, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism

Can we do something about the persistent vandalism on the main article? It seems like every other edit of the last 20 is vandalism. Would WP:RFPP be the best place to resolve it? David O. Johnson (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

David O. Johnson, generally speaking, yes, request protection at RFPP. In this case, you don't need to, because I reviewed the article's recent edits and semiprotected the article for two weeks. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. David O. Johnson (talk) 21:01, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Alt Right?

Why would the Alt Right support two black people? Opinion pieces from Progressive newspapers do not count as reliable sources.

Guitarguy2323 (talk) 05:43, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

The political stance of the newspaper does not preclude it from being considered reliable. — Czello 06:39, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

New Album

Why are people taking this seriously? This is so obviously part of his promotional campaign for his upcoming album and his latest single. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil6875 (talk • contribs) 04:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Even if his intent is promotional, he has officially filed as a candidate with the FEC and has filed to appear on the ballot in at least two states so far. Legally he is a candidate and is conducting himself as such.FN17 (talk) 18:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Michelle Tidball, Christian Right, etc.

User:Nice4What, you have removed reliable sources from the article that characterize Michelle Tidball, Kanye West's running mate, as a Christian. You have also removed a reference detailing Kanye West's alignment with the Christian right. Please explain your edits here before reverting. Thank you. With regards, Anupam^Talk 01:29, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Anupam: You need to gain consensus before adding contentious information, so I again suggest that you self-revert. Per WP:ONUS: The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. I object to your added description "West's rhetoric has been described as being aligned with the Christian right" because that is not in the source cited. The title of the cited article is "Kanye West’s Dark Turn to the Anti-Gay Christian Right" with no further explanation. May as well (incorrectly) add that West is homophobic if you're solely basing it on that article's title!

That article was published prior to West's presidential run and relates more to his Sunday Service Choir. I believe that the Al-Jazeera description ("a Republican-leaning, pro-Black religious platform") says enough to the reader in the lede. Also, I have no issue with calling Tidball a "Christian preacher", it's just that the sources currently in the article do not mention her faith. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting here User:Nice4What. I am happy to hear that you have no objections with respect to the edit regarding Tidball. I have found this additional reference. Does that work for you? If so, feel free to add it in the article. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 18:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

That additional source does not mention the Christian Right? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay, you can go ahead and remove it for now and when I have the time to find another source, I will restore the term. Will you go ahead and add the adjective "Christian" in front of "preacher" along with the new reference that I have found? If not, I can go ahead and do that. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam^Talk 19:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Will do. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 01:56, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Kanye's mental illness

Kim Kardashian's statement on having compassion for Kanye given his bipolar disorder appears to me to be a necessary piece to add to this article, as his mania provides the context for this whole "campaign". I had avoided adding something about it prior as it would have been WP:SYNTH. This meets BLP and NPOV standards, depending on how we write it.[3] – Muboshgu (talk) 18:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I think it'd be a BLP issue no matter what. This has also been disputed too. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:53, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Nice4What, I don't consider Us Weekly to be a reliable source, do you? Especially considering the refutation in that article is cited to "an insider". What we do have, though, is basically every RS reporting on KKW's statement about having "compassion" given his bipolar disorder,. She specifically refers to it as bipolar disorder, and he's talked about it openly in the past. We can include his current statements about his mental health to balance any BLP issues. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: I'll be honest, no, it's not reliable. However, did KKW specifically connect his BP episode to the presidential run? And is her word reliable enough to avoid any BLP issues? If not, it doesn't belong on this article. I believe her statement was a response to West publicly attacking her and his mother-in-law on Twitter, not necessarily his presidential run (or his recent focus on music). Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 16:07, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Nice4What, she did not explicitly mention the presidential run, but the sourcing links her statement to his recent behavior, most specifically the rally in South Carolina. CNN says Kardashian West's post comes three days after West held a presidential campaign rally in North Charleston, South Carolina. CBC says Kim Kardashian on Wednesday asked for compassion and empathy for her rapper husband Kanye West's struggles with bipolar disorder that have led to a series of rambling public remarks on subjects ranging from politics to his marriage. She doesn't have to explicitly say it's the presidential run, or the abortion comments, or other comments, as our reliable sources are making all of the necessary connections. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: The CBC article (adapted from Reuters, passes under WP:RSP) might be sufficient for making the connection between the rally and BP, but Kardashian's comments seem to be marital problems / celebrity news and dismissing West's entire campaign as a bipolar episode is not our job. And also, to which extent might this be worth mentioning in the article? We can't assume these connections for ourselves, especially for something so contentious. As another CBC article states: "Don't make assumptions about other people's mental health, experts say". Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 16:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC); Edited 16:29, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Nice4What, I brought it up here rather than add it myself because I know how contentious this addition would be. We absolutely need input from more editors than just the two of us. She's not dismissing West's entire campaign in her statements, and nor was I suggesting we use her statement for that purpose. In her statement, Kim acknowledges that Kanye is a public figure, and per WP:PUBLICFIGURE, this material meets inclusion. Many of the articles do include wording like "according to an insider" or "a source", like this less reliable source that uses an anonymous source to say Kim is "upset", which we will have to be cautious about. We can stick with the facts and avoid the WP:BLPGOSSIP problem. Here are a bunch more RS that can be used: [4][5][6][7][8] – Muboshgu (talk) 16:41, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Though West is having marital issues and a bipolar episode does not mean that's relevant to his presidential campaign. I went through your sources and none directly connect his behavior to his BP; if they don't make the connection, then we can't at the moment. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 16:48, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

I disagree with your assessment of the connection between his bipolar disorder and his recent behavior, and am not personally interested in their "marital issues". I await feedback from other editors. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

I think it has to be mentioned, but unless there are WP:RS making the connection, all we can say is that he has admitted mental health issues (specifically that he is bipolar) and he has engaged in peculiar behaviour during the "campaign" (ranting about abortion, crying etc). That said, it is pretty darn clear this is likely an episode, so hiding his mental health struggles seems pretty inappropriate.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 18:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Michelle Tidball article up for deletion

The article for Michelle Tidball has been nominated for deletion. The discussion is taking place here, if you wish to comment. One of the proposals in the event the article is deleted is that it would re-direct here.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 20:15, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Context for Kayne's welfare leading to violence claim

Historically, the rise of violence in Chicago has predated the "welfare state," dismantling West's claims.[95] Yeah i'm sure that's a wikipedia voice. Not. Remove this bias immediately — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.70.26 (talk) 20:40, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Another editor seems to have modified this sentence. I have changed it further to attribute it to the writer, Jelani Cobb, and some of the academics he cites. Hopefully, this is better, but others feel free to improve.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:39, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey everyone, first time using Wikipedia Talk on an article, so please correct me if my formatting or anything is wrong. I took a look at the article linked as a refutation of Kanye's claim that the welfare state / fatherless households are linked to a rise in violent crime. I'm copying and pasting what I think is the relevant part of the article here:

"The roots of Chicago’s violence are complex and trans-partisan, but they exist in the context of a prolifically armed and exceedingly violent country. (White American violence alone would distinguish the United States from its less volatile Western industrial peers.) There is no way to segregate the six hundred and sixty-four murders that took place in Chicago last year from the more than seventeen thousand that occurred in the rest of the United States. The catalysts for violence in that city predate the “welfare state” and the rise of single-parent black households, in the nineteen-seventies. In the classic 1945 text “Black Metropolis,” the sociologists St. Clair Drake and Horace Cayton detailed the ways in which discrimination in housing and employment were negatively affecting black migrants. Twenty-three years before that, the Chicago Commission on Race Relations, formed after a race riot in which thirty-eight people died, found the violence to be a product of the exploding populations in the city’s Black Belt and the poor housing and employment conditions to which the growing number of African-Americans were subjected. (In 1903, W. E. B. Du Bois had lamented the ways in which overcrowding, filth, and discrimination, as well as unchecked vice, had spawned violence within the emerging black communities in Philadelphia.)

To understand Chicago, we could turn to Richard Wright, whose early work documented the travails of black migrants there. Or to the photographer Gordon Parks, who began his career depicting the living conditions of African-Americans in Chicago. Or to the artist Charles White, whose early work explored similar themes. Or to the poet Gwendolyn Brooks, whose work provided a window into the lives of black Chicagoans. Or to the playwright Lorraine Hansberry, whose “A Raisin in the Sun” was partly inspired by her own family’s fight against racially restrictive housing covenants in the Chicago area. At one time, it would have been possible to turn to Kanye West for insight into such matters."

While the article argues for different catalysts of violence predating the "welfare state," it does not claim that the violence itself (not the catalysts) predate the welfare system.

Therefore, I think that the claim that "Historically, the rise of violence in Chicago has predated the 'welfare state,'" is not supported by the citation and should be modified, supported by different sources, or removed. This is the link to the article used as citation. LucasGK123 (talk) 01:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Fourth category in ballot access map

Right now the ballot access map is broken into three categories: 1) on ballot, 2) pending, 3) missed

If Kanye gets knocked off the ballot in Missouri, Illinois, or nj we should consider adding a fourth category to distinguish states that he did submit the requirements to get on but lost a challenge. Mikemikem (talk) 23:02, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Map needs update

If I knew more about graphics, I’d do this myself: Map needs to be updated to include Colorado and Vermont (dark blue). :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.77.131.222 (talk) 14:37, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Elon Musk

Any reason Elon Musk was removed from the endorsement section? Just like Kardashian, he immediately voiced his support for Kanye after the announcement, and it was quite notable (being mentioned by multiple media sources). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.208.215 (talk) 08:50, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Keeps getting removed by people who have misread one of Musk's tweets. He has been readded. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 01:03, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Map unclear

There are two shades of gray, and it's not clear what they mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.134.109.147 (talk) 01:59, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Dark gray means the ballot access deadline has passed (meaning Kanye missed the state's ballot), and light gray is supposed to mean the ballot access deadline hasn't passed (meaning he could still get on that state's ballot). I've added the latter definition to the legend to make that a bit more clear. - EditDude (talk) 03:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Map updated to show Virigina?

The map should show Virginia as filed now: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/kanye-west-trying-to-get-on-ballot-in-two-more-purple-states.html

Also, maybe map is worth moving up on the page, given how central ballot access is in his case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.115.36.34 (talk) 01:22, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2020

Kanye got on Iowa https://www.kcci.com/article/kanye-west-to-appear-on-iowa-ballot-in-november/33632950 https://kwwl.com/2020/08/18/kanye-west-will-be-on-iowa-ballot-if-no-objections-filed/ KanyeHelpsWiki (talk) 03:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: It's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

I think the commenter is asking for Iowa to be added to the list/map of states where West is on the ballot. As the reference makes clear, West is now (Aug.28) on the Iowa ballot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.192.69 (talk) 23:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done: Map updated. — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 03:47, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

NJ ballot access

@MelbourneStar: I noticed the Politico article cited for the NJ petition being rejected/withdrawn doesn't actually indicate that; it states that the petition was challenged. An article published a day prior confirmed that West's petition was initially approved. This is why I was a little confused over how to handle that in the ballot access section. Do you have a source stating that the petition was withdrawn or that the challenge was successful? If not, I think we should state that he's achieved ballot access in NJ while the challenge is still pending. — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 03:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Tartan357: I would argue that the July 2020 source provided, ballot-access.org, is factually incorrect in its report. The NJ.gov source it cites even returns a 404-page error.

Irrespective of whether it was correct or not (I bet on the latter), there are various August 2020 sources (both independent and reliable) which state that West has withdrawn his ballot access pursuit of New Jersey: NJ.com, The Hill, NY Post, Huff Post, NJ Globe, and so forth. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:01, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@MelbourneStar: I think the Ballot Access News source was likely correct that he was initially placed on the ballot; Richard Winger is an expert in ballot access law. However, from the sources you provided, it looks like he later withdrew the petition. Would you like to add one of those to the article or should I? — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 04:06, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Tartan357: Perhaps you're right there; however, it probably would have been prudent for Winger to update said post to confirm that West's NJ ballot access was indeed successfully challenged and West's campaign withdrew. I'm happy to add a source. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:24, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@MelbourneStar: I added a reference to the Hill article already. — Tartan357  ^(Talk) 04:25, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Ballot Access Map

Someone needs to update it, as North Dakota's deadline has passed.Persistent Corvid (talk) 01:44, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

California ballot

West's presence on the California ballot as a vice-presidential candidate should be noted here (as I attempted to add before it was reverted), not because it is the same campaign, but because his presence there may cause confusion if not noted and clarified here. --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:06, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose — That's precisely the issue though: this article is about his presidential run, not his VP run. More importantly, you have not provided any RS to support the claim that his California VP run will cause confusion. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

August poll has Kanye at 3 %

This poll from August 13th has Kanye at 3 %: https://leger360.com/surveys/american-politics-report-august-13-2020/ Just in case anybody would like to add it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.192.69 (talk) 20:32, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Kanye lost in Virginia

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/17/us/elections/virginia-supreme-court-rejects-kanye-wests-appeal-to-be-placed-on-the-ballot.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.192.69 (talk) 07:06, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Write-in

West, has got write-in access in Alabama, Delaware, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Wyoming should we add them?? ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deniz Demir 28 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Endorsed by Soylent founder

Is he notable enough to be added? https://www.newsweek.com/soylent-founder-endorses-kanye-west-president-he-realizes-that-everyone-genius-1541523 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.192.69 (talk) 07:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Marketing needs update

Two important things happened that are currently lacking in the article:

• Kanye West was interviewed by Joe Brogan (more than 10 mio views on YouTube): https://variety.com/2020/music/news/kanye-west-joe-rogan-experience-leader-of-free-world-1234814912/

• ”Dear Future”: West published a two pages politicial ad in The New York Times:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/9476232/kanye-west-dear-future-letter-new-york-times — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.192.69 (talk) 22:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

receipts

Update receipts: 11,542,526.75 (https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/P00016741/)2001:1C00:A19:4D00:7CD3:FDC2:5715:D460 (talk) 12:18, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Rose McGowan

I know this isn't talked about on Wikipedia, but in [9] includes Rose McGowan in their names of celebrities who supported Kanye West. (and I have tried to find if she has endorsed other people than Kanye West, but I didn't find anything about it, only People's Party) That's why I added her name to the list. SMB99thx my edits 12:05, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Infobox Error

The "Announced" and "suspended" dates don't appear in the infobox, and the website to Kanye's website is centered in the infobox for some reason. I'm not a veteran wikipedian so I don't know what's wrong so if someone would fix that that would be great

MrMeAndMrMe (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

"U.S." presidential campaigns

Is there a reason why we specify that these are "U.S." presidential campaigns in the article title? Per WP:CRITERIA, titles should be consistent with the pattern of similar articles' titles, and we don't specify countries in other article titles about presidential campaigns or any political campaigns for that matter. I know that the article was created years before this merger proposal, but not a single editor proposed specifying the country in the article title in that discussion either. Throast ^{{{ping}} me!} (talk | contribs) 18:53, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

No, there was not. Hence why I moved it SecretName101 (talk) 06:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)