Talk:Julia Buencamino

Latest comment: 9 years ago by 122.30.215.194 in topic Pronouns

Pronouns

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@LionFosset and AntonioMartin: I declined a protection request for this article. Can you please determine if gender-neutral pronouns are appropriate here? --NeilN talk to me 14:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Why I requested semi-protection for this article is because many unregistered editors keep changing the pronouns referring to Julia into plural pronouns, which make sentences grammatically incorrect. It's also because Julia is an actress who recently died and relatively known to Filipino TV viewers of ABS-CBN, so there were some who vandalized sections of the article. LionFosset (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
I was thinking maybe they are using Google Translate which from my own experiences can be terrible at translating at times. Maybe they translated from Filipino (Tagalog?) and are copy-pasting it to here? Maybe that's the issue with them putting "their suicide" etc. We should talk with them. Antonio El Tagaloco Martin (aca) 07:04, July 16, 2015 (UTC)
My two cents, if I may - while known in life and to the public as female, this person identified as gender-neutral. This is probably why people are changing the pronouns from 'she' to 'they'. In terms of gender pronouns, the singular 'they' is becoming more acceptable; in terms of grammar, it's a debated issue. The only source we have confirming gender neutrality is the suicide note, so I'm leaning slightly more towards female pronouns, but I could be persuaded either way. NekoKatsun (talk) 18:50, 17 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
They/their/them is currently overwhelmingly used to refer to people in the plural, with the exception of cases where the person himself/herself isn't known (e.g., "The user needs to change their password before they can log on.") In an article about a single female, using plural pronouns is nonsensical and leads to confusing and/or misleading sentenced. (For example, does "they" refer to Julia or to her parents? It refers to her parents, contrary to what the sentence is trying to say.) 122.30.215.194 (talk) 11:48, 1 October 2015 (UTC)Reply