Talk:Internal model (motor control)

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The result of the move request was: page moved. 㓟 (talk) 09:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

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Move discussion closed after 7 days, a unanimous consensus has been reached 㓟 (talk) 09:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Internal model → Internal model (motor control) – The scope of this article clearly is motor control, which is fine. However, there are similar or seemingly similar lemmas as Cognitive model, Mental representation, Conceptual model, Mental model, Cognitive map. in particular, "internal model" is, for systematic and historic reasons, sometimes used in the sense of "mental model". To prevent confusion, and to clearly delineate the scope of this article, it should be renamed. That way, a disambiguation page "internal model" can be created that links to "internal model (motor control)" and to "mental model". 㓟 (talk) 14:15, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

• Support move. Good idea to make the Internal model - lemma a disambig page. -- Mdd (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

• Support conditionally I support this on condition that the person who does the move also takes responsibility for setting up the disambig page and putting at least two items on it. (I assume that's the plan; I just want to make it explicit.) Looie496 (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
  • It seems to me, the disambig page (to be) can contain Internal model (motor control), Cognitive model, Mental representation, Conceptual model, Mental model, Cognitive map... and maybe more? -- Mdd (talk) 16:38, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Comment – Mainly, "mental model" and "internal model (motor control)" could be on it – the disambig should be for different meanings of the same term, that is "internal model". I was referring to the other terms to show how easily the articles might be mixed up on the basis of similar names. The "internal model" in motor control should be under that lemma so that readers and editors will not mistake it for 'internal model in the sense of mental model'.

Some of the others might be mentioned, however with additional explanation to reflect that those terms have different meanings. Some have a somewhat similar meaning, but should be distinguished, and some might only seem similar: "Conceptual model" may refer to a kind of internal/mental models (not all mental models need be conceptual), but may also mean explicit models that are consciously constructed by some individual. "Mental representation" is more general than internal/mental model. A cognitive map is a case of internal/mental model, and is particularly linked to the representation of space, navigation etc. (also in the (cognitive) neuroscience literature on the hippocampus). Then, cognitive models are explicit models that cognitive scientist use to explain cognition. 㓟 (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Also, see here for a quick review of the articles: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cognitive science#Models, representations, maps – a quick review of articles 㓟 (talk) 20:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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A disambig page has been set up. All links have been updated, as necessary. Some link to the disambig now, whenever they do not clearly refer to the motor control meaning. 㓟 (talk) 10:10, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

As far as I understand, there is still ambiguity in 'internal model control'. In control theory, the term 'internal model control' could refer to two completely different control methods. The first one is related to the well-known 'internal model principle', which was articulated in the paper of B. A. Francis and W. M. Wonham. Such a controller is sometimes also called a 'servocompensator'. The second one is more used in the process control context, where it refers to a control method that is similar to Youla parameterization method. It is suggested that these two methods be put in two different pages. AlanSixth (talk) 12:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)