Talk:Huddersfield grooming gang
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"Not possible to conclude that Asian men are disproportionately engaged in such crimes."
editIsn't that statement a tad misleading given that there have been studies done that prove the opposite? See https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-we-know-about-ethnicity-people-involved-sexual-offences-against-children/. Just wondering how we update this page to show that there is a majority of white people committing CSE, but per capita the number of people of Asian background doing it is still higher.--Phil of rel (talk) 19:33, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- This is the latest conclusion of a Home Office report, if you have a newer report that says otherwise or gives specific figures, then you can add that. There was a report from 2017 that says many of the them were Asians, but it predates this Huddersfield court case, so it may not be useful here. Hzh (talk) 20:46, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
The Jay report says almost all of Pakistani origin, and 1400 known victims. Rustygecko (talk) 10:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
Only 15 to 21 children involved??
editFrom another Wiki article
"Rotherham Council commissioned an independent inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay. In August 2014 the Jay report concluded that an estimated 1,400 children".
So why only 15-21 victims? Rustygecko (talk) 10:00, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Huddersfield is not Rotherham. Hzh (talk) 12:07, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Not all crimes can be be identified to the level of person X raped person Y.108.20.180.22 (talk) 20:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Collapseable table?
editThe table of convictions is a bit of an eye sore on the article. Can we fix it by making it collapsible or more better looking? Aesthetically it's a bit ugly having lists like this in articles. As per MOS:LONGSEQ they have to be as short as reasonably possible. NarSakSasLee (talk) 19:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Per MOS:COLLAPSE, content should not be collapsed, that it doesn't look good is not good enough a reason to keep it collapsed. Hzh (talk) 09:26, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
These people don't look white
editThe article states that most members of grooming gangs are whites. The pictures of these convicts indicates that they are browns.
The last part of the article needs to show this as a counterpoint to the current language.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-gang-rotherham-review-home-office-findings-a9344896.html108.20.180.22 (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- The report talks about child sex exploitation gangs in general, not about this specific gang. Hzh (talk) 21:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Amere Singh Dhaliwal
editWill people stop adding detail about the ring leader? Whether he is a Sikh or converted is irrelevant to the case. Unless it can be shown to have significant bearing on the issue (and it has none), keep it to a minimum. Don't distort its significance in this article or use it to fight other wars. Hzh (talk) 01:19, 5 January 2023 (UTC)