Talk:Houdini (Eminem song)

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The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 01:38, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Houdini makes use of abracadabra? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/steve-miller-reacts-to-eminem-interpolating-abracadabra-in-new-song-houdini-3761618
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bar Kokhba refuge caves
  • Comment: Possibly a bit early, but this would make a good April Fools' hook. Lk95 started this off and I just added a bunch to it, a reviewer can adjudicate on whether anyone else deserves credits.

Created by Lk95 (talk) and Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 233 past nominations.

Launchballer 09:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC).

• Sampling/interpolating other people's tracks is a common practice, so I don't see anything unique/interesting about Eminem doing so here, especially when it isn't the first time he's done so in his career. Try coming up with something else. Page length and QPQ are all set, though. I also don't see any neutrality or copyright issues. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

That hook was intended as an April Fools' joke, I was trying to suggest that Harry Houdini makes use of abracadabra - hooks on that day have a little more license to violate WP:EGG. ALT1: ... that Eminem promoted "Houdini" with a video in which David Blaine ate a glass of wine?--Launchballer 08:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

It wasn't a funny joke, and while ALT1 is much more intriguing, that isn't supported by the given link. You'll just need to add a ref backing that up before we can move forward with this. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I just watched the video, and what actually happened was a little less dramatic: ref #4, which is what I'm using, says "downing a glass of wine and eating the glass". I've amended the article to that effect.--Launchballer 12:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

That aligns quite well with the link used, so I'll now give my approval for ALT1. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer and SNUGGUMS: I have a bit of a problem with the hook. Perhaps something like, "...Blaine drank a glass of wine, then ate the glass it was in?" or, "...Blaine ate a wine glass?" The "ate a glass of wine" hasn't set right with me for a few days since I read this. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

I have no objections to either option for rephrasing. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

"Ate a wine glass" is better per WP:DYKTRIM. For pshaw, the hook would therefore be ALT1a: ... that Eminem promoted "Houdini" with a video in which David Blaine ate a wine glass? (Incidentally, if WP:DYKFICTION wasn't a thing, I'd be proposing something like "what Eminem, his children, his manager, Dr. Dre, Jimmy Iovine, and "you" have in common" as "how salamanders cross the road" is the most successful hook so far this month.)--Launchballer 17:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Reception seem strangely slanted to negative

General consensus seems to be that the song was well received with a lot of views on Youtube. Can we please get some positive reception examples included as well to balance it out? 2405:DA40:435D:4500:820:66B1:2B12:D04C (talk) 11:52, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

YouTube views aren't an indicator of reception, and you're incorrectly assuming that everybody who watched the video likes it and the song. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 11:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but it did get 3.3m likes in 12 days (as of time writing this). That is very big for any artist to receive in such little time. It's safe to say it was very well received. AustinVD (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

What happened to genre part of infobox?

I saw the back and forth between the song's genre before but now it's gone. Tonkarooson (discuss). 07:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Simple, it was removed due to a lack of sourcing. Nobody who added genres prior to this edit gave anything to back them up with. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 13:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

That reference probably shouldn't be in the infobox though. Where's the best place to source it in prose?--Launchballer 13:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)