Talk:Hotel Green

Coordinates?

Anybody have the coordinates for this? --98.232.182.66 (talk) 05:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit requests regarding National Register listing, "Film" section

"The Castle Green is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, the State Historic Register, and the City of Pasadena's list of Historic Places." in the Decline section is oddly out of place and inaccurate, and I assume it was added in some time ago by someone with a COI as advertising for Castle Green. It is the entire block of the Hotel Green annexes that is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and is a Pasadena Historic Monument, not just Castle Green (see page 16 (PDF numbering) of the NHRP nomination, and [1]); I'm not sure what the State Historic Register is referring to. This issue extends into the infobox.

As noted in the Pasadena listing link above, the "third building" was named the "North Annex." (Note that I made a previous edit ([2]), using no new sources, to correct some minor numbering and naming confusions, but this is a larger change.)

As noted on PDF page 12 (also 13, 14) of the NRHP nomination, Roehrig did not design the first, east building, so the intro also errs there: he designed the two annexes.

Finally, the "In film" section seems to have been added by a fan of a particular series in passing, and is oddly disconnected with the film mentions in the Decline section.

I would suggest:

1. Removing the "The Castle Green is listed..." sentence in the Decline section, and adding "The block containing the annexes is listed on the National Register of Historic Places and is a Pasadena Historic Monument." to the end of the introduction (or elsewhere).
2. Removing California Historical Landmark from the infobox.
3. Reworking the intro: Hotel Green was the entire complex; Roehrig designed the 1898/9 (finished/opened) and 1903 additions; the third building was the "North Annex."
4. Either removing the film section, or moving the film mentions in the Decline section into the In film section.

--Constantine (talk)

Also... per NRHP nomination page 14/9A, Castle Green was (unusually, as the nomination notes) a co-operative apartment house, not standard residential apartments. I would request that "was subdivided into fifty residential apartments and renamed the Castle Green" be changed to "was subdivided into fifty-three unit co-operative apartment house and renamed the Castle Green" --Constantine (talk) 10:05, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Reply 12-JUN-2018

Partially implemented

1. The yellow California Historical Landmark (CHL) claim was removed from the infobox as requested.
2. The registration number from the National Registry of Historical Places (NRHP), which had been erroneously listed as the CHL number, was moved in the infobox to its correct parameter as the NRHP number.
3. The information regarding the NRHP which was in the final Decline section was moved to the lead, along with information regarding the third annex.
4. The Decline section was deleted.
5. Page numbers were affixed to instances of the Gadski pdf reference.
6. The History section appears mostly to be sourced by one reference, the aforementioned Gadski pdf. Therefore, the One source section maintenance template was added to this section.
7. Much of the text in the article appeared to be insufficiently paraphrased from the Gadski source. Part of these instances were placed in quotations and given page numbers from where they arose in this source, but many other instances were removed, as the entire History section cannot become just a block quote of the Gadski source. That source contains a lot of valuable information which, if properly paraphrased, could add much to the article. However, other sources should also be sought.
8. The mention of the site as being used in certain scenes from the Puppet Master series was given a reference.
9. The request regarding the subdivided residential apartments being renamed the Castle Green was omitted as it was not referenced. Furthermore, the lead already mentions the "Central Annex" as being the part of the building being Castle Green. It is not known if this is the same section as the apartments mentioned in the request.
10. The aforementioned claim regarding the central annex was given a citation needed inline template, as it is not referenced anywhere else in the article.
11. The claim regarding the Hotel Green as being the home of the Valley Hunt Club and the Tournament of Roses association was also given a citation needed inline template.

Regards,  spintendo  06:58, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Demolished in 1935 yet there is a picture of it in 2022.

Somebody needs to fix this. BrianAlex (talk) 17:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)