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Merger proposal

See discussion here. Prova-nome (talk) 13:50, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Closing, given the abscence of a consensus for any action (and now archived). Klbrain (talk) 22:31, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of the discussion was merge 3x History of Brentford F.C. article into History of Brentford F.C. . Pinging @Govvy:. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

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I don't know what happened and why Brentford F.C. is so botched, so I propose we merge History of Brentford F.C. (1889–1954), History of Brentford F.C. (1954–1986) and History of Brentford F.C. (1986–present) back into Brentford F.C. to be inline with the current and correct style that is set by the football project here at wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 11:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

I would support a merge. I think the page was originally split up due to it's size. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 13:52, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Happy with a merge, but only to History of Brentford F.C., which is a standard and established fork. GiantSnowman 16:02, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: I am not against that merge, I still fail to see why this main article should lack decent historical content know. Govvy (talk) 20:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@Govvy and GiantSnowman: Soooo. Is there going to be a merge? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 17:13, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Not much input, but what GS said, merging the three articles into one would suffice. Govvy (talk) 17:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

In the absence of any opposition in the next few days, consider WP:BEBOLD. GiantSnowman 11:35, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Govvy and GiantSnowman: support merge JRPG (talk) 08:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

support merge. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:04, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

@Govvy, REDMAN 2019, and JRPG: please note I am removing this discussion from the list of proposed merges at WP:FOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 20:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

It's still there User:GiantSnowman. I agree that merging the 3 very detailed history articles to History of Brentford F.C. would suffice. But should be a paragraph or so on the main page. Nfitz (talk) 00:31, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Per above, merge into single History page - but main Brentford page needs a summary of the historical info. Probably easy enough to scrape an earlier page version for content. Koncorde (talk) 23:20, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Can easily be merged into a History article. But, having a summarised history here is what makes sense. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:06, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

'Oppose' , although the 3 history pages could potentially be merged. All 3 history pages merged to the artucle would create an enormous article. Barney1995 (talk) 00:38, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Support merge into a single History of Brentford F.C. article. @GiantSnowman: @Govvy: Considering the amount of time this merger has been proposed, isn't it time to take action? GiantSnowman has suggested BEBOLD and I agree it's the best course of action, especially with high support here for a merger. Also, Govvy: I do agree that the Brentford F.C. article itself shouldn't be completely vain of history. A summary of the club's history, covering its most important content, may be added to Brentford F.C., while full details are over in the History article. See for example Everton F.C. - it has a good sizable summary of its history, while the full details are all in History of Everton F.C.. It is a good format that I think should be used for Brentford too. --Jf81 (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

@Shhhnotsoloud: Umm, I am very busy with work, either someone else can do it or it will have the merge or wait good while. Govvy (talk) 08:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:History of Brentford F.C. (1986–present)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Taking a look now.....will make straightforward copyedits as I go and drop queries below...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:12, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

• Any reason why the history articles are divided at 1954 and 1986?

No as far as I can see. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 13:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I think it was pre-decided somewhere....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:56, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

• Any commentary on why McLintock couldn't deliver?  Done added some info

• Brentford flirted with the playoff positions during the 1987–88 season and in 1988–89,[4] a late run almost took the club into the playoffs - try not to use "playoffs" twice in the one sentence  Done

• but an unbeaten run in the second half of the season... - traditional here to say how many matches...  Done

• Perryman resigned on the eve of the 1990–91 season... - do we know why?  Done

• and captain Terry Evans suffered a long-term injury on the opening day of the season. - may as well say what the injury was  Done

• Just two defeats in 11 matches put the Bees up to 10th by the end of 1992 - am I missing something here? You didn't mention a poor start just before this...?  Done

• The Bees were easily defeated 3–1 in the fifth round by Charlton Athletic, but too many draws late in the season dropped the club to a 3rd-place finish..'' - "but" is odd here as they are both bad things so I can't see the contrast...? {[done}}

• Finally - the trick is to avoid these articles turning into a chronological sequence of factoids - any analysis on why any manager did well or poorly, or any other bits on particularly good players would be good to add if you can find them.

A promising article with alot of heart in it...needs some polishing but eminently doable Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:20, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

@Casliber: I have addressed all of your concerns. Would you be able to take a look over the article and seem what the situation is now? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 13:13, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Pass or Fail: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)