Talk:Hirohata Merc
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editHi there. Thanks for the invite. I guess I would mainly suggest some small grammatical changes...getting rid of the commas around brackets (or the brackets themselves) and a few rearrangements of phrases. The affectionate and familiar use of "she" pertaining to the vehicle raises a bit of a question mark. Is this standard customiser usage? The circumstances of the car's "birth" seem preetty fascinating too. Do we know much about Hirohata himself? And a picture or two? Rumiton (talk) 10:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- Howdy, stranger. ;p You'll get disagreement over "she", I think; I prefer it in the same way as for ships, & for the same reason: "it costs so much to keep them in paint" ;p (as sailors used to say). I'm unaware of anything about Bob Hirohata (beyond his murder), but it was evidently pretty common for major customs to be purchased then (as now); Polynesian was another in this period, to name just one I know of. I don't know of free use pix, but there's picasaweb pix of a Danbury Mint model (which has the stock windshield, which is wrong). Maybe the reqphoto will get some. I'd be interested in seeing your changes. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 01:09, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'll have a look. Rumiton (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, just made some suggestions really. One thing I noticed was a bunch of discrepancies in lifting/lowering inches and the subsequent history of the car in this[1] article. They also state that the car was sold after Hirohata's murder. Might be best to find a definitive source, I imagine custom car guys are a pretty finicky bunch. Cheers. Rumiton (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- You're right, it's a finicky crowd. ;p I accepted the smaller chop based on appearance, & why I tagged it for citation; 7" is a big chop. I confess, the stock height might be more than I thought. I also put up a request on the Kustomrama page (which I am embarrassed to admit I didn't know about before :( :( :( ), so maybe it'll attract some people who really know & can source it. On the issue of adding more on Bob Hirohata, at the risk of sounding indifferent, I'd say "don't"; the page is on the Merc, not a bio of him. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 01:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- OK on all that. I guess I am just personally interested in the owner. That would have been an enormously expensive project back then and in his photo he looks a bit like a gangster. Cheers. Rumiton (talk) 03:45, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Different POV, I guess. I've always been more the technician. (Comes from planning to populate them with my own characters, I think. ;p) My impression is, that was "the look" at the time, so... And from the number of major customs getting built, it may not have been the bank-breaker it might be today. (Not to say cheap, by any means!) Quite a few of the major customizers "back in the day" did it as much as a labor of love as anything, & their fees were (to some degree) tokens, enough to cover costs but not make a bundle. (Admittedly, I'm working from thin evidence.) Nor were these guys making a living doing nothing else, where Boyd might have been able to. Hope you found the topic interesting. ;p TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 04:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- I was only half serious about Bob, but his story does interest me. In Australia, where I live, I doubt that anyone in the whole country could have afforded a makeover like that, hardly any could have even bought the base model. Interesting to hear that that in the US it was done rather idealistically. Anyway, thanks for the invite. I'll let you get on with it. Rumiton (talk) 13:14, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Different POV, I guess. I've always been more the technician. (Comes from planning to populate them with my own characters, I think. ;p) My impression is, that was "the look" at the time, so... And from the number of major customs getting built, it may not have been the bank-breaker it might be today. (Not to say cheap, by any means!) Quite a few of the major customizers "back in the day" did it as much as a labor of love as anything, & their fees were (to some degree) tokens, enough to cover costs but not make a bundle. (Admittedly, I'm working from thin evidence.) Nor were these guys making a living doing nothing else, where Boyd might have been able to. Hope you found the topic interesting. ;p TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 04:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- OK on all that. I guess I am just personally interested in the owner. That would have been an enormously expensive project back then and in his photo he looks a bit like a gangster. Cheers. Rumiton (talk) 03:45, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- You're right, it's a finicky crowd. ;p I accepted the smaller chop based on appearance, & why I tagged it for citation; 7" is a big chop. I confess, the stock height might be more than I thought. I also put up a request on the Kustomrama page (which I am embarrassed to admit I didn't know about before :( :( :( ), so maybe it'll attract some people who really know & can source it. On the issue of adding more on Bob Hirohata, at the risk of sounding indifferent, I'd say "don't"; the page is on the Merc, not a bio of him. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 01:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Well, just made some suggestions really. One thing I noticed was a bunch of discrepancies in lifting/lowering inches and the subsequent history of the car in this[1] article. They also state that the car was sold after Hirohata's murder. Might be best to find a definitive source, I imagine custom car guys are a pretty finicky bunch. Cheers. Rumiton (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- "She" is inappropriate for formally designating any automobile in Wikipedia, even if the car's owner used the pronoun. It is still allowed for ships, though. --Vossanova o< 19:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'll have a look. Rumiton (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Information & References
editHi Folks,
Just a suggestion, but an email to Dave Freiburger at Hotrod/Hotrod Deluxe magazine should put most debates to rest. In addition to having reliable information, he will most likely know of a published source for the factoid. He will usually respond to a specific and clearly worded request. 67.164.110.98 (talk) 23:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
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