Talk:Gymnastics at the 2012 Summer Olympics

Latest comment: 7 years ago by 79.77.54.149 in topic "All-round"

Use of pictograms as headers on sortable tables for the all-around articles edit

Pretty sure this fails the heck out of accessibility guidelines. Screenreaders will be up a creek. These should be replaced by the textual name of the event. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 15:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Reply


Men's rings final score controversy edit

There's no need to include a "controversies" section about the Rings final score. Despite the score could leave room for doubt, neither the athlete nor the Chinese technical crew entered with a formal inquiry questioning the score. Thus, the controversy is a mere matter of opinion, which goes against the standard of information posted on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mledur (talkcontribs) 16:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Call it controversy or call it dispute. It's notable because two different participant gymnasts and two different participant national team coaches have expressed this. Please read the source the only reason a formal complaint was not raised by the Chinese team was because of the rules that you can only inquiry about your own scores, but not others' scores. Tinhor (talk) 22:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

The athletes are not the judges. Regarding the E-score, there are good arguments from both sides. I still think there's no need to include a "controversial" paragraph in this article. Otherwise, I'll write another paragraph defending the judgement with several properly sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mledur (talkcontribs) 02:45, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

So go ahead, instead of suppressing properly sourced and referenced information that is notable by a major news media, you should write "the other side of the story" if you can properly sourced it. This is not your personal opinion page. Tinhor (talk) 03:30, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Names in medal tables edit

I have edited the tables to list the gymnasts' full, legal names (the names they were under for the competition), as they should be listed in any official medal table. Just as "Vika" Komova, "Didi" Chelaru and "Beth" Tweddle become "Viktoria," "Diana" and "Elizabeth" in a medal table, regardless of what the majority of people call them, so too should "Aly" and "Gabby" be "Alexandra" and "Gabrielle."

In regard to COMMONNAME (I'm not an expert, so forgive me if I don't do this exactly right), using a nickname such as Gabby or Aly seems fine for an article title (as in, for their personal articles), but a medal table should have a more official format. It is a list of official results from a competition, and athletes should be listed under the names they were listed under when they competed. Triplefull368 (talk) 01:45, 16 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I'm slow responding, but none of this really explains why we're suddenly using not-commonly used names for medal tables. I understand WP:COMMONNAME deals with article titles, but it's also a good general rule of thumb. I think you're conflating the different ways we use the word "nickname". Yes, "Aly" is a nickname for "Alexandria", but it's also how she's referred to by the media. Does not work the same way for "Vika" or "Didi". --Mosmof (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

"All-round" edit

I'm wondering why this page talks about "all-around" instead of "all-round" - the Olympic website uses "all-round" (https://www.olympic.org/london-2012/gymnastics-artistic/individual-all-round-women, https://www.olympic.org/atlanta-1996/gymnastics-artistic/individual-all-round-men) as far as I can see for every Olympics up to this year. I've just tried changing it but it all got a bit too much for me trying to work out what the code means - does anyone else want to? 79.77.54.149 (talk) 10:55, 22 August 2016 (UTC)Reply