Talk:Gwynedd Council

Former name?

Didn't it used to be called Gwynedd County Council? —Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley _{talk contrib} 15:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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Current name

In response to an edit by User:DankJae on 13 April 2023, I took the liberty of checking Google Trends, which is a source recommended to determine the most common name for a topic, and there are still more searches for "Gwynedd Council" over "Cyngor Gwynedd" even in Wales.Tk420 (talk) 21:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Tk420, hi, just a note GT (and anything Google) should not be used as the sole source per WP:WIAN, although it can be used as a light reference. But I do agree that "Gwynedd Council" is still likely used for now more than "Cyngor Gwynedd" so a move should not yet occur, and the lead should have the current article title first hence my edit. Of course it can change in time. If any editors have evidence of secondary sources, like news sources, using primarily "Cyngor Gwynedd", raise them here and if you believe there is a strong case set up a RM then. Diolch! DankJae 21:34, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

oh just noticed you reverted my removal of the name from the infobox, accept it is slightly controversial either way and no strong opinions, just thought it be a sort of compromise to use the styled name in the infobox, but don't mind either way. DankJae 21:40, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Not sure "styles itself" is appropriate wording, it sounds like the name is an eccentric affectation. "Calls itself" would be much more neutral, and accurate in my view. It's simply calling itself "Cyngor Gwynedd" in the native tongue, which is the working language of the council. Sionk (talk) 08:48, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

@Sionk, open to a different wording, added that term with little thought, as a previous editor demoted the article title to {{lang-en}} in brackets (English: Gwynedd Council) against MOS, and was not sure how to explain the situation more clearly. "calls" has a more speech or quote association IMO, may be "branded"? Although I don't think council's really have a "brand". Not sure if they also changed the legal name. Technically "officially" is a correct term, although it may be confused with legally, although a council is more authoritative so has more weight. So may be "officially", "officially known as" or "officially known by its Welsh name", the latter may be too long but notes it is Welsh. DankJae 18:43, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

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