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Development timeframe/length edit
The article currently states:
- The development of Grand Theft Auto began on 4 April 1995 at DMA Design in Dundee. It originally had a protracted four-year development, which included a title change and numerous attempts to halt development.
- Released 28 November 1997
I don't understand how all three bolded points can be concurrently true. That's barely 2.5 years. Even in the loosest terms, one could only say it spanned the 3 separate years of 95/96/97. Sergecross73 msg me 17:34, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Palm OS edit
I found by chance that Take-Two announced a Palm OS (PalmPilot) version of the game back in 2001, for release later that year.[1] I found exactly one dump of the game files. The game lists Tarantula Studios as the developer, Rockstar Games as the publisher, and 2001 as the copyright date. The game was also listed for some time on Global Star Software's website as "Coming Soon" alongside a demo. Other than that, I cannot find any sources on when or even whether the game was actually released. The platform's generic name doesn't make finding info easier, so I hope someone can help with some insight. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 11:21, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- @IceWelder: Wow, good find! Daily Radar and Eurogamer covered the announcement as well, and FGN claimed that it would be at PC Expo in 2001. It was also listed by the ESRB. According to Gouranga.com, it was cancelled by June 2002, but they don't appear to cite a source (and, to further muddy the waters of reliability, they say that Global Star "didn't even get permission" from Take-Two, but that makes little sense considering it was owned by Take-Two, and the latter even made the original announcement, per your source). Seems to have just fizzled out and been quietly cancelled, sometime between February and June 2002. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 03:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that about lines up with what I found in, uh, less reliable sources. Gouranga! most likely is not reliable but at least it has some good pointers to external information. I investigated the game itself a bit more and it looks like a straight port of the GTA2 GBC game. The credits in the game files also match with only a handful of names missing. The version from PalmDB is manually patched, so I assume that it is a modified version of the demo. Do we assume that the Palm version was cancelled? We should find a way to state this cleanly in the article. IceWelder [✉] 18:54, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- I think we can safely assume it was cancelled, but I can't find any sources for us to be able to verify that in the article. Perhaps we can just mention its announcement/existence in past tense? Something like "In March 2001, Take-Two announced Global Star Software would publish a version of the game for PalmPilot by the holiday season in Europe and North America;[1][2][3][4] Global Star released a demo for Palm OS on its website.[5] Frustrating that we can't really say more than this (unless another source miraculously appears) but this seems like the only way we can really mention it for now. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 02:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that about lines up with what I found in, uh, less reliable sources. Gouranga! most likely is not reliable but at least it has some good pointers to external information. I investigated the game itself a bit more and it looks like a straight port of the GTA2 GBC game. The credits in the game files also match with only a handful of names missing. The version from PalmDB is manually patched, so I assume that it is a modified version of the demo. Do we assume that the Palm version was cancelled? We should find a way to state this cleanly in the article. IceWelder [✉] 18:54, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b "Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Takes Lead in Expanding Palm Pilot Gaming Market" (Press release). Take-Two Interactive. 26 March 2001. Archived from the original on 7 May 2001.
Take-Two also announced that its critically acclaimed Grand Theft Auto title will be available for the Palm Pilot later this year.
- ^ "Take-Two Takes Palm Market". Daily Radar. Future US. 26 March 2001. Archived from the original on 16 April 2001. Retrieved 25 October 2022.
- ^ Bramwell, Tom (26 March 2001). "Take 2 dominate Palm gaming market". Eurogamer. Gamer Network. Archived from the original on 25 October 2022. Retrieved 25 October 2022.
- ^ Gaudiosi, John (14 August 2001). "Video game companies looking to PDA platforms". The Hollywood Reporter. Vol. 369, no. 29. Affiliated Publications. EBSCOhost 6916084.
- ^ "Grand Theft Auto for the Palm OS". Global Star Software. Archived from the original on 1 December 2001. Retrieved 25 October 2022.
Basis of San Andreas edit
I corrected the article to say that the state of San Andreas is based on two U.S. states, California and Nevada. That's what the article Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas says, as well as the citation that accompanies it (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas review). ... discospinster talk 17:54, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- In Grand Theft Auto (1997), San Andreas is a single city, and that city is based on San Francisco. Sources for that are easy to come by, e.g. [1]. You can also find a detailed description of the city here. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was released several years later (2004) and plays in a different continuity (the 3D Universe), so I fail to see how it is relevant here. IceWelder [✉] 22:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
English-only? edit
I recently had my addition of the Japanese release date reverted due to "only English-language regions". Is there any reason as to why only English-language regions can be mentioned? PrincessKaori94 (talk) 00:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- @PrincessKaori94: Per WP:VG/DATE, non-English countries should only be included if the game was released there first. I can only assume this is because we are on the English Wikipedia, and listing all dates could quickly become unruly. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, thank you ^_^ PrincessKaori94 (talk) 01:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)