Talk:Gorizia Statistical Region

Name origin

A recent editor claimed that the Gorizia Statistical Region is not named after the town of Gorizia, but after the common noun gorica 'small hill'. Slovene gorica is of course the ultimate origin of the name of the town of Gorizia, but the town in turn was the origin of the name of the traditional region and, in turn, the statistical region. Doremo (talk) 10:09, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

For published English sources (by both English and Slovene authors) referring to the Gorizia region, please see here. Doremo (talk) 10:17, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

A recent user commented "The retion is Goriška. This is the original name and what other nation call their towns is irrelevant. There is no Gorizia in Slovene and since there is no English name it has to be Goriška." The sources above attest to the use of Gorizia for the region in English. Regarding the notion of "original name," the WP article Exonym and endonym may be helpful. Doremo (talk) 10:31, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Some more specific published English-language sources clearly referring to the "Gorizia region" in Slovenia include these bilingual sources [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] and monolingual sources [6], [7], [8], [9]. Doremo (talk) 10:57, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

None of those sources are referring to the statistical region, the topic of this article. They are referring to the historical region. —  AjaxSmack  01:55, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

This is true. Although the traditional Gorizia region is well-attested as such in English, all of the statistical regions are quite obscure in published English texts and it is difficult to find any reliable (i.e., not Slovene-authored or computer-generated) published English reference to them in any form. For comparison, it's also difficult to find any reliable published English references to many Slovene lakes (e.g., Lake Hotiza, Lake Štrit, Lake Trbonje, Lake Račeva, etc.), but this doesn't prevent their English pattern from being obvious based on the model of Lake Bled. Doremo (talk) 04:42, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Sources you add are inadequate. They are describing the historical region. Statistical region is new and very doubtful named after the town in Italy. Until sources that prove your statement are found, the name will stay original: Goriška. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grabyton (talk • contribs) 13:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Please provide an alternative origin of Goriška if you believe it does not come from Gorizia (Slo. Gorica). Doremo (talk) 16:38, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I have no time to search alternative origin. You can search for correct source. Until it is not proven, the name should not be translated and it should stay original. I can just help you with information that center of this statistical region is Nova Gorica and the Licence plates on cars, have written GO. Inhabitants call their town Gorica and not Nova Gorica. So I guess that region around this town would be named Goriška and not Novogoriška. Grabyton (talk) 17:44, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

If you believe that Snoj and Merkù (the cited sources) are wrong, please provide an alternative published source for the name Goriška. If you have no time to provide sources, then it is better not to removed well-sourced material. Doremo (talk) 18:58, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Please read carefully what I already wrote and do not repeat the topic. I have to use copy paste: Sources you add are inadequate. They are describing the historical region. Statistical region is new and capital of this region is Nova Gorica. Until you provide correct source the name should stay original - Goriška. Please do not edit until the consensus is made or sources found.--Grabyton (talk) 11:44, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Deleted material

The following etymological material was deleted from this article without consensus. I suggest that it be restored:

It is named after the Italian town of Gorizia (the feminine adjective goriška comes from the Slovenian name for Gorizia: Gorica).

Doremo (talk) 03:09, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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