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Swapped out image edit
This image of an old commemorative plaque, formerly on the wall of the Barclay Perkins Brewery, has been condemned as actually being of The Rose, of the wrong shape, and mounted in the wrong place.[1] Later research may have shown this to be too harsh a judgment, but nonetheless I've removed it from the article.
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References
- ^ Adams, Joseph Quincy (1917). Shakespearean Playhouses a history of English theatres from the beginnings to the restoration. Boston MA: Houghton Mifflin. p. 264. OCLC 1072672737.
--AntientNestor (talk) 15:37, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Origin of the (supposed) motto edit
The information I could find very strongly favours John of Salisbury as the source of the motto, IF it was indeed the motto. The only verifiable link I could find between "quod fere totus mundus exerceat histrionem" and Petronius is in fact in Policraticus. Going by the book European Literature and the Latin Middle Ages (the relevant part, Metaphorics/Theatrical metaphors is not in the preview, but snippet search is available): the exact quote is "quod fere totus mundus iuxta Petronium exerceat histrionem", which could be taken as him quoting Petronius. BUT from the way it's presented it the book, the starting point of his concept of 'theatrum mundi' appears to have been an actual Petronius quote earlier in the text:
"Grex agit in scaena mimum: pater ille vocatur, filius hic, nomen divitis ille tenet. Mox ubi ridendas inclusit pagina partes, vera redit facies, dissimulata perit"
Which makes it far more likely (and the author himself suggests so) that Salisbury is at that point summarising the original Petronius quote in his own words.
The Petronius text (almost) as quoted above is available here in its original context: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2007.01.0001:text=Satyricon:section=80&highlight=grex+agit%2C. The probable paraphrase by Salisbury isn't. One post in an online discussion quotes Steevens tracing it back to Fragment no. X., but trying to find it in the work linked above lead to no result, whereas there's talk of forged fragments in the introduction of the same: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:2007.01.0057, one set of which was printed in 1692.
Of course, if the motto was a later invention altogether, then it might as well be based on a forged Petronius fragment. Valagai (talk) 14:58, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Full text of European Literature and the Latin Middle Ages by Ernst Curtius is available online from Internet Archive here, no charge to logged-in users.--AntientNestor (talk) 17:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Added as a reference to the article, with an acknowledgement to Valagai--AntientNestor (talk) 21:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Policraticus now given more emphasis, as User:Valagai suggests.--AntientNestor (talk) 11:47, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Added as a reference to the article, with an acknowledgement to Valagai--AntientNestor (talk) 21:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Write on essay on globe theatre of london edit
Topic 220.158.158.226 (talk) 18:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)